(October 2, 2013 at 11:29 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:(October 2, 2013 at 11:22 pm)ThomM Wrote: As we Already KNOW - prayer has NO effect beyond that of chance
Which is why I posted the story. Bad things happen at the same rate to those devout Christians who pray and go to prayer meetings as to us atheists who don't.
You forgot one thing, those who died will be in heaven, where will you spend eternity. This horrible accident happened only a few miles from where I live, Christian or not they deserve respect and concern from all. I prayed for them and I prayed for their families and the ones who were injured, I do that for all I hear of that lose loved ones, Christian or not.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.