(October 8, 2013 at 1:51 am)bennyboy Wrote:(October 8, 2013 at 1:03 am)Esquilax Wrote: Then the conversation is kind of over, since someone starting with the useless idea of solipsism can just move the goalposts back with another layer of reality-clouding obfuscation the moment anything is proved to them.Solipsism IS largely useless. That's why I'm willing to make the assumption that the things I experience have an existence separate from my own experience it. But if you really want to seek the truth, we have to be honest with where our understanding comes from: especially, we have to distinguish between scientific discoveries and pragmatic assumptions. When you do science that is rooted in assumptions to prove those same assumptions, then it's not really science at all.
Moreover, it takes a special kind of contrarian to look at all the evidence distinctly for the idea of a mind, and then decide that rather than the natural conclusion being true, everything is just pretending like this is so, despite having absolutely no evidence of that.
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"Solipsism IS largely useless. That's why I'm willing to make the useless assumption that the things I experience have an existence separate from my own experience it. But if you really want to seek the truth, we have to be honest with where our understanding comes from: especially, we have to distinguish between scientific discoveries and pragmatic assumptions and stupid useless mental masturbation. When you do science that is rooted in assumptions of reality to prove those same assumptions useful things about our world, then it's not really science at all."
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