The dates given by AOS for past events may actually disprove evolution entirely

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Except that if you accept the size of the universe you are accepting the age.

Andromeda, the nearest spiral galaxy to us and the only one we can see with the naked eye (ignoring dwarf galaxies - yes Stimbo - I know) is 2.5 million light years away from us.

That means it took light 2.5 million years to get here.

That we can see it (without a telescope no less) means, immediately, that the universe is at a minimum 2.5 million years old.

This leaves you in something of a quandary. You will now have to disprove Einstein's theory of relativity to get to your own age estimate to pass. Good luck with that.

The theory of relativity holds, but there are different possibilities depending on initial conditions.

You are assuming the shape of space over large distances and the speed of light over large distances.

Those assumptions are based on the already proven false assumption of "no God"

Well I am sure we are all glad that relativity holds- phew, what a relief.

As to the rest:

We are not talking about large distances 2.5 million light years is nothing in terms of the vastness of space - where we can "see" about 13.5 billion light years.

The issue of the shape of space doesn't come into it on such a small scale.

I know you didn't mean to refer to the speed of light over large distances as being a problem - you already accepted Einstein, remember?

So between us we have PROVEN that the universe is at least 2.5 million years old - good for us.

There's a long way to go, of course, as we have to get to 13.72 billion years but its a start and hey, Rome wasn't built in a day.

In the meantime I am going to ask you a question that a fellow theist of yours on the forum brought up a while ago.

How long were Adam and Eve in the Garden?

You don't know. It could have been a week, it could have been a year, it could have been 13.72 billion years - something your 6,000 year time-line doesn't help with....does it?

Now don't go quoting Adam's age at me from Genesis 6(?). That was from the day he left the garden. It had to be because there were no calendars in the garden.