RE: The dates given by AOS for past events may actually disprove evolution entirely
October 8, 2013 at 12:09 pm
(October 8, 2013 at 11:49 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: You have assumed no God, so you conclusion based on your false assumption is false.
Not if there isn't a god, which is a claim you have only asserted is false, not demonstrated. Besides, there's a thing called "evidence" for claims, and it's a required standard before we go about operating with a claim in mind. Since you've provided no evidence for god beyond poking (misguided and incorrect) holes in scientific theories, there is no reason to operate under the belief that there is one.
Or are you actually saying that conclusive evidence for god is out there, and scientists just won't see it because... they don't like nobel prizes and tons of money from religious organizations for revolutionizing the field of science? Somehow?
Let me put it another way; transcendent magical space pixies created the universe. Do you believe me? No? Why's that? No proof? Shit, that's what I thought.
And if I presented, as proof of my pixies, a problem with the bible, would you accept that? Exactly.
Quote:Here is your logic:
Assume there is no God.
Since it is assumed that there is no God, the universe and life must have come without God
Therefore there is no God.
So, first of all, fuck off, and don't tell me how I think.
Second of all, go back and look at the first quote I have of you this post. You claim that we atheists are operating off of an assumption, but the fact is, you've discarded everything we've said out of hand because we aren't assuming your conclusion to do it. It's you with the unjustified assumption here, not us.
Quote:No logic at all just circular reasoning.
I've never seen someone sum up their own posting record here so succinctly before.
Quote:Here is my logic ( 2 proofs):
Proof by contraction.
Assume there is no God
Leads to countless contradictions
You've yet to name any that actually trace back to reality, rather than your vast ignorance when it comes to scientific claims and processes.
Quote:Therefore the assumption of no God is false.
Therefore there must be God.
Argument from ignorance.
By the way, are you saying that if I were to find contradictions in the bible, the bible would be false? Because I can do that, you know.
Ah, what the hell: I'll do it anyway!
Each and every arc on that chart is a contradiction in the bible: you can highlight them and learn specifics, if you want. Given that there's so many of them, under your own logic the bible must be false, right?
Quote:Proof by Modus Ponens.
if the universe and life has vast interrelated complexity then an intelligent Almighty being made it.
the universe and life has vast interrelated complexity
therefore an intelligent Almighty being made it.
And the moment you prove the first premise, you'd have a point. So far, you haven't.
Not that it matters: the bible is full of contradictions and therefore false anyway, isn't it?
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