RE: Observations On Atheism Part II - God And The Bible
December 6, 2008 at 12:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2008 at 12:47 pm by Daystar.)
(December 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm)lukec Wrote: Ezekiel 7:2
"You, son of man, thus says the Lord Yahweh to the land of Israel, An end: the end is come on the four corners of the land."
Often taken to mean the earth is flat.
Did I mention I have had these sorts of discussions before? If I say to you I am going to travel to the four corners of the world do you take that to mean that I think that the earth is flat?
The Bible says that the Earth is round. Or a globe, circle, spherical. Isaiah 40:22.
(December 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm)lukec Wrote: Ecclesiastes 1:5
"Also, the sun rises and the sun sets; And hastening to its place it rises there again."
Do we not say that the sun rises and sets even today? Where does the sun rise? Where does it set? What we mean isn't that the sun is moving but describing the observation from a human perspective on earth and the apparent rising and setting of the sun.
(December 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm)lukec Wrote: Lightning striking churches? I dunno what he's talking about either. I'm interested- does the Hebrew translation say something different? And I know you may disagree, but do not deny me that people do in fact interpret these verses in the way I have here.
It isn't a question of translation, it is a question of expression which isn't really that different form ours.
(December 5, 2008 at 11:55 pm)lukec Wrote: Also, Daystar, if you could not lump everyone together with one glorious insult I'd appreciate it. If you really think I'm illogical then, ok, that's weird, I like to believe I think fairly rationally. And I would turn around your point about you criticizing something you know nothing about and point it right back at you- you've blatantly called the theory of evolution "bullshit," contradicting the VAST majority of biologists, geologists and paleontologists who actually have experience in the field and actually have reason to believe the theory of evolution is correct in explaining the facts of evolution.
I have decided that I have to be more articulate and concise and less emotionally involved with these discussions in order to get what I want out of them.
(December 5, 2008 at 1:05 pm)LukeMC Wrote:(December 5, 2008 at 12:51 pm)Daystar Wrote: I believe in God because his word the Bible is evidence to me[...]
I'm failing to see your evidence for the bible being "his word". You just make this assumption, probably under the impression that nobody will call you on it? Well considered yourself called. Any evidence that the bible is God's word?
In another thread where I was beginning a discussion designed specifically for me to learn what atheist thought about evolution, you told me to go away and learn about it or shut up.
Why shouldn't I give you the same advice about the Bible?
EvF, you know nothing about God so your opinion on him is moot. At least I am willing to learn your theoretical science.
