Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: December 18, 2024, 12:43 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
#17
RE: Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'
I found it.

Quote:
Quote:I still am not convinced by your response, though, mainly because I think I'm coming at this from a different world viewpoint. For me, it's not "Was there a conspiracy?" or even "Was it a conspiracy of the Romans?" but "Which Romans came up with this deliberate divide and rule psy-ops campaign, and when, and why?"



Agreed about the different world viewpoint but what I think you are missing is that it is not yours or my viewpoint that matters but Vespasian's. Try to put yourself in his position. It is 69 AD and Vespasian has been declared emperor but he is in Egypt and did not arrive until the middle of 70 back in Rome which had been heavily damaged by fires that broke out when armies loyal to Vespasian defeated Vitellius. Titus the Younger was still involved in the siege of Jerusalem and there was a serious revolt in Germany which spread to Gaul. After 18 months of civil war the finances of the empire were in tatters.

Jerusalem was already invested and under assault when Vespasian parked his butt on the throne. It was, at that precise moment, one of the least of Vespasian's problems and both sides in that rebellion had to be fully aware of how it would end. Petillius Cerialis was despatched to deal with the serious revolts in Gaul and Germany. Vespasian busied himself with taxes including the Urine Tax from which we get the charming maxim "Pecunia non olet" ( money doesn't smell ). Anyway, Jerusalem falls in September of 70 and a single legion is left to garrison the city and mop up under a kinsman of Vespasian's, Lucius Flavius Silva. Silva completes operations by taking Masada in 73 and it is at this precise moment that Atwill expects us to believe that Vespasian is so worried about a nation that he has just utterly crushed that he goes through this charade of inventing a religion based around Titus.

Sorry, Ish. I just don't buy it. The better answer remains "Constantine" who saw in having a single religion an opportunity to unify an empire which was increasingly fracturing in the 4th century. It may have been the worst decision in history but it makes much more sense.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ' - by Minimalist - October 9, 2013 at 12:46 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  To Atheists: Who, in your opinion, was Jesus Christ? JJoseph 52 4355 June 12, 2024 at 11:01 pm
Last Post: arewethereyet
  The Current Evolution of Ancient Religious Institutions Leonardo17 67 7294 November 22, 2023 at 3:16 am
Last Post: Belacqua
  The power of Christ... zwanzig 60 6624 August 30, 2023 at 8:33 pm
Last Post: Bucky Ball
  Jesus Christ is the Beast 666 Satan Emerald_Eyes_Esoteric 36 9479 December 18, 2022 at 10:33 am
Last Post: LinuxGal
  Creating Christ JML 26 4142 September 29, 2022 at 9:40 pm
Last Post: Jehanne
  So has Christ returned TheClearCleanStuff 31 4357 May 20, 2022 at 12:35 pm
Last Post: Fake Messiah
  CHRIST THE KICKER…… BrianSoddingBoru4 15 1722 January 3, 2022 at 10:00 am
Last Post: brewer
  CHRIST THE KILLER..... ronedee 31 4169 December 26, 2021 at 7:11 pm
Last Post: Ferrocyanide
Rainbow Why I believe in Jesus Christ Ai Somoto 20 3503 June 30, 2021 at 4:25 pm
Last Post: Nay_Sayer
  What do invented saints tell us about Christianity? Fake Messiah 132 15744 November 22, 2019 at 9:19 am
Last Post: Fake Messiah



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)