RE: Religion conflicting with science
October 9, 2013 at 11:40 pm
(This post was last modified: October 9, 2013 at 11:44 pm by Godscreated.)
(October 9, 2013 at 2:02 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Just a little anecdote here. I was in a core biology lecture. The lecturer was quite a funny guy. He was talking about the start of life and evolution and all that and he said that the bible is the most accurate religious text when it comes to how the world started. He listed what god made and the days he made them. Funnily enough he missed out the part where god made plants before he made the sun. I felt like speaking up but there was like 100 people in the lecture and I was shy. He was definitely an atheist because of the way he ripped into creationism though. It was done as a kind of joke.
Anyway, context aside, I assumed everyone in the lecture was not religious but I did see a few girls wearing muslim things, can't remember the name, like a burka but not a burka, doesn't cover the face. Also there is a lecturer that is a biologist but is also a vicar or priest of some sort, he has the collar. He specializes in botany apparently.
It just seems incredible to me that a scientist can believe in god and the bible or in fact any religion. In my eyes, they are huge hypocrites. They have an incredibly high standard of evidence for their science but they don't apply this to their religion. Its like they are actively oppressing the rational and logical voice in their head. It must be a constant internal struggle for them. On the other hand, they may not have thought critically about it at all. I'm sure a lot of people just putt off examining their religion with the same scrutiny as they would a scientific hypothesis.
Science requires proof, God requires faith, what's so hard to understand about this. The two can co-exist with no problems.

(October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote:(October 9, 2013 at 3:33 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: And that is why there are still so many christians/muslims in the world. Lots of peoples default position is there is a god and they never have cause to evaluate it.
As far as Christians go, it seems like most just follow some generic dogma like "Be good, go to Heaven; be bad, go to Hell; love Jesus and God" and that's about it. They don't really get into what the bible actually says. To them the bible is like a software license agreement. They don't read it, they just click on "I agree." That's why with most of them when you show them something really weird in the bible they're honestly surprised.
You haven't surprised any Christians here.

God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.