(October 10, 2013 at 10:44 am)daandaan Wrote:(October 10, 2013 at 8:53 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: So a cell was observed forming spontaneously from just chemicals in some natural environment with no help from intelligent scientists?
NO
A first living thing was observed spontaneously from just chemicals in some natural environment with no help from intelligent scientists and the ensuing creatures up to the first cell in like manner?
NO
Please get someone to fill out the answers to my simple questions that I posted. Please make them swear to the data under oath.
That was the biggest nothing post yet.
The attempt shows utter desperation. And that proves you have no facts.
standard creationst stupid NON sense....like..
``So a cell was observed forming spontaneously from just chemicals in some natural environment with no help from intelligent scientists?
NO``
1 i was talking about a long chain of reactions what took 63 yrs to explore and test, to come up with proof that the reactions happened.
the last of that reaction of that chain now has been found....
so i m not talking about MAKING it happen ....its proven on paper now how the LAST reaction happened to form dna billions of years ago !!
test how the last reaction happened where alrady done yrs ago , but science wouldnt be science if its not proven on paper.
so its not a single reaction like ur strawman question indicates !!
apart from the fact that if , like u suggested ``So a cell was observed forming spontaneously`` u would have directly cried out INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED !!!
so ur question is a fallacy on its own and demonstrating u r nothing but an uneducated prick that doesnt understand even the slightest way Chemistry works, let alone, a chain of reactions , lead up to abiogenesis.
2 all the knowledge of how to make life has been applied in the XNA project, 2 yrs ago ..didnt u read??
we call it synthetic life .....becouse WE made it to happen
xna is pirimidine based ..t and c . !!
we used that becouse it was already proven how it formed in pre biotic environment on old earth.
at the time , we still couldnt account for adenine and guanine as proven facts trough the process of abiogenesis, (tests however proved it to form only it still wasnt proven on paper), so we used an other molecule to substitute it ...there by introducing it ``from outside / XENO`` of the abiogenesis process......therefore XNA.
so we had differnt types of nucleobase , the ingredients of life.
and nucleobases form out of them selves , NO HELP NEEDED nucleotides.
it surprised us becouse by using pirimidine based nucleobases and a xeno nucleobase , ...it formed complete by its self...a 6 nucleotide structure..
so it is even more complex as WE are and its stronger....DNA has only 4 nucleotides.....proving ur nonexisting god to be nothing more as a faillure in biology.
so to come back to ur bullshit....... ``A first living thing was observed spontaneously from just chemicals in some natural environment with no help from intelligent scientists and the ensuing creatures up to the first cell in like manner?
NO``.........u demonstrated creationists cant read....
is specifically stated that ``we call it sythetic life ``...
becouse we made it , u idiot !!!
and for dna to form out of just chemicals, like u LEAD and PUT WORDS IN ONES MOUTH ....it doesnt happen that way !!
so its epic fail for u !!
hahahahahahahahahaha !!
p.s. making dna the way it happened on earth ..
r u really that stupid?? do u have 1 billion years to wait for it and a planet with approxemately the same specifics as earth of us to run the experiment ??
what we can do now is make every reaction happen , up to the nucleobase forming ones ..and then a form of dna or something else forms completely by itself ...like we done in the XNA experiment ...accelerated it to just some days in a lab.
proving WE can make life based on the knowledge of how abiogenesis took place,
and
we proved how it happened on earth to form DNA.
END OF UR LINE
HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR
I would be stupid to buy your non answer.
Please answer the simple questions I asked now that you have the "answer"?