Ancient Confession Found: 'We Invented Jesus Christ'

[Cyberman]

Since atheism is, ideally, the emancipation of people from the shackles of dogmatic belief

*coughs*

"Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free." John 8:32

Point out where Jesus states anyone should be chained to the shackles of dogmatic belief. Atheism is the dogmatic belief you're chained to.

Please enlighten me; to what dogmatic belief are atheists enchained?

And I should get that cough seen to, if I were you. Might be nasty.

then no it's not an exclusive in-crowd. You're quite correct that a person's belief is as likely to be wrong as right; that's why I and many others endeavour to ensure that such beliefs as we choose to have are as correct as we can possibly make them

You're not being very correct if God exists so you're still potentially making a blinder of an error there if he does and you're dismissing him out of hand. Sure a lot of people in the world will be wrong about something and we can't be sure exactly who that will be or what they will be wrong about but don't just assume you have the right idea.

Pascal's Wager? Seriously?

And again, what idea do I assume I have?

not merely adopted out of hand and against all evidence to the contrary.

Are you sure about that? I'm under the impression that's what most atheists are essentially doing.

Quite sure, thanks. As demonstrated rather beautifully by the pages and pages of evidence that atheists have presented on these very boards, compared to the equivalent number of pages of theists with their fingers in their ears and shouting "T'isn't!"

Read what I said again, presented here for your convenience. You answered a point I didn't make while missing the one I did.

I agree that it was founded as a secular nation but I pointed out that Christianity isn't against secularism in the freedom of religion sense. So it's still a very good Christian foundation in the spirit of what Jesus taught.

And yet again, you miss the point I'm making while addressing one I didn't. I'll reiterate and clarify for you:

In response to this post:

If Jesus had been invented it then would have gone something like this.

"Good news Christ has risen!"

"Who?"

"Jesus Christ was executed a few years and rose again?"

"No I don't remember him around these here parts"

"Perhaps you just forgot about him. it was about 20 years ago?"

"No I think I would remember him."

And that would have killed the movement in it's tracks.

and its suggestion that real events within living memory would cancel out the adoption of an alternative reinterpretation of history, to put it politely, I offered an example of a popular belief which actually is propogated as fact despite having a much more recent origin; ie, the US Pledge of Allegiance contains the "One Nation Under God" line, therefore the country was founded as a xtain nation, even though the words were only added in 1954. I see no evidence that the reality has "killed the movement in it's [sic] tracks"