What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?

[Whateverist]

You're the one who ignorant and providing the simpleton non-answer that the universe just exists because it created itself and was perfect for complex life by blind luck. Get serious here, you know you're wrong. At least deep down somewhere you must have some concerns about what you actually believe in face of the everything to contrary.

I'm about to conclude that you are simply on an apologist mission and not at all interested in honest inquiry. If that's the case you could make this easier for me by being upfront about it.

What I haven't heard you address is the actual position of science. Science doesn't have a default stance on what came before everything cosmologically nor on how exactly life arose. The answers to both those questions are unknown. One can trace the current state of the universe back a fair distance and identify evidence for various transformations. The same goes for evolution. Not yet knowing how the inorganic/organic line first got crossed does not commit anyone to a blind luck assumption. At this point all suggestions thus far offered are hypotheses still looking for evidence. That includes the God hypothesis as well as the primordial soup hypothesis.

Do you or do you not in fact begin with the axiomatic assumption of God? It must be fun to view science through the filter of "fine tuned by God himself". But that is apologist science, not the kind that has actually accomplished so much. Creationists are parasites incapable of producing anything useful themselves, unless you count making it easier for people wedded to a medieval mindset to feel at home in the modern world.