What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?

[Esquilax]

If you want to insist that the universe didn't build toward complex structure and forms over time and that it didn't need to be perfectly physically balanced and ordered in order to produce any of this then you're demonstrably wrong.

The critical thing that you're missing is that neither of those things- you're correct on the former and likely wrong on the latter, incidentally- testify to a cause. There's nothing in either claim that indicates that an eternal deity with a plan for mankind was involved in the process at all. That's an additional assumption you are making, most likely because you were brought up in the religion, for which you have no justification beyond the fact that you can't imagine another way, and I'm sorry, but your ignorance, humanity's cumulative ignorance on this topic isn't an excuse for that, nor is it something we're liable to keep for long.

The interesting part will be what you'll do if the answer is revealed and it's not the one you've assumed it is; history shows us that what's most likely to happen is that your god will somehow retreat just one layer back, so the process can begin again.

You can't deny what we can actually see and observe. This isn't one of those kinds of things where if you close your eyes and wish hard enough it just might be true, if you want physical evidence it's under your nose.

We do not see or observe your god, happily. Seems like your words got away from you, there.