RE: What Was Before ' the Beginning '....?
October 12, 2013 at 4:34 am
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2013 at 4:36 am by max-greece.)
Human Brain,
Thanks for the acknowledgement.
Unfortunately it does appear that we have something of a language barrier. I agree its not really fair of the others to tease you on this but its a light-hearted forum so no malice is intended really.
In the meantime its quite difficult to understand your questions. When you ask where atoms and molecules come from are you referring to those on earth that lead to life itself or is the question a more general question about the universe?
If the question is about the universe then its probably a good idea to look at what is going on at the Large Hadron Collider. The most fundamental questions of physics are being investigated, pretty much as I write this. They are attempting to prove, or otherwise, the Higgs field theory (HFT).
I am no physicist but as I understand it they are trying to find out why things have mass (whilst other things don't). The HFT basically says there is a field that permeates the universe starting nanoseconds after the big bang. How different particle react to that field determines whether or not they have mass. Photons do not react with it - so they are massless. Protons and Neutrons do, quite strongly whilst electrons do less strongly.
Once we have accounted for mass then the interactions of those particles allow for the formation of simple atoms (Hydrogen and Helium) as the expanding universe cooled from its initial plasma state.
The larger and more complex atoms formed in stars which, using fusion, create enormous amounts of energy.
When the stars eventually ran out of fuel (and the larger the star the faster this happens as it burns more fuel more quickly) they collapse in on themselves under gravity and then explode outwards showering the universe with larger particles (carbon, iron etc.) which are the fundamental building blocks of life.
9 billion years after this started happening the earth formed. Everything that makes up the earth comes from the above. Just as on any planet chemical reactions occur between the different atoms but on earth this went somewhat further and larger and more complex molecules formed (as a tiny proportion of the whole thing - most of the chemical reactions were simple ones in common with the other planets).
How those eventually went on to form life, or even what the first life form was, is unknown but once life had formed evolution (mainly through natural selection) kicked in.
Hopefully that answers some of your questions.
Obviously what we do not have is any evidence at all that this process was guided in any way.
Thanks for the acknowledgement.
Unfortunately it does appear that we have something of a language barrier. I agree its not really fair of the others to tease you on this but its a light-hearted forum so no malice is intended really.
In the meantime its quite difficult to understand your questions. When you ask where atoms and molecules come from are you referring to those on earth that lead to life itself or is the question a more general question about the universe?
If the question is about the universe then its probably a good idea to look at what is going on at the Large Hadron Collider. The most fundamental questions of physics are being investigated, pretty much as I write this. They are attempting to prove, or otherwise, the Higgs field theory (HFT).
I am no physicist but as I understand it they are trying to find out why things have mass (whilst other things don't). The HFT basically says there is a field that permeates the universe starting nanoseconds after the big bang. How different particle react to that field determines whether or not they have mass. Photons do not react with it - so they are massless. Protons and Neutrons do, quite strongly whilst electrons do less strongly.
Once we have accounted for mass then the interactions of those particles allow for the formation of simple atoms (Hydrogen and Helium) as the expanding universe cooled from its initial plasma state.
The larger and more complex atoms formed in stars which, using fusion, create enormous amounts of energy.
When the stars eventually ran out of fuel (and the larger the star the faster this happens as it burns more fuel more quickly) they collapse in on themselves under gravity and then explode outwards showering the universe with larger particles (carbon, iron etc.) which are the fundamental building blocks of life.
9 billion years after this started happening the earth formed. Everything that makes up the earth comes from the above. Just as on any planet chemical reactions occur between the different atoms but on earth this went somewhat further and larger and more complex molecules formed (as a tiny proportion of the whole thing - most of the chemical reactions were simple ones in common with the other planets).
How those eventually went on to form life, or even what the first life form was, is unknown but once life had formed evolution (mainly through natural selection) kicked in.
Hopefully that answers some of your questions.
Obviously what we do not have is any evidence at all that this process was guided in any way.
