RE: Question for Christian Ballbags here
October 12, 2013 at 1:52 pm
(This post was last modified: October 12, 2013 at 2:05 pm by Drich.)
(October 11, 2013 at 6:03 pm)Waratah Wrote:(October 11, 2013 at 8:14 am)Drich Wrote: God provides 'proof' for all of those who Ask, Seek, Knock.Too bad that the biblical formula for the 'proof of god' (the holy spirit) fails.
Quote:No. Nothing we can say or do will Make you do anything. The purpose of me being here is to answer questions so you can make an informed desision as to where you want to spend eternity. I do not care what you choose for yourself, so long as you make a choice knowing full well the decision that you have made. That said it is my hope to see a few of you on the otherside.\
(My bolding) Why do you continue to avoid my questions from HERE?
Please respond to this post HERE so this thread does not get derailed and so this is not the 4th thread our discussion is spread over.
Apart of answering questions is admitting that not everyone will get a satisfactory answer at least from their pov. You got an answer whether like what I had to say or not.
(October 11, 2013 at 3:37 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:...and once one meets those conditions, His love for that person will be found to be boundless.(October 11, 2013 at 3:08 pm)Godschild Wrote: No Christians here have said God does not love everyone, that would be to deny scripture.
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Talk to Drich, because he in fact has said that god's love is conditional.
(October 11, 2013 at 1:26 pm)Esquilax Wrote:(October 11, 2013 at 1:18 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Esquilax, Rich is not displaying ego so much as expressing his dismay. I often feel the same way. Both of us have been called liars and worse. But we are big boys and can handle it. There's plenty of reflexive dismissals to go around.
Which I would accept, if that wasn't his only note whenever someone disagrees.
I guess what frustrates me about it is that it totally stifles any kind of continuing discourse; he presents his point, someone disagrees, and instead of providing additional information or a refutation, he races to condemn the person doing the disagreeing... and then that's the end. There's no way to debate a person whose sole response is not to defend his argument, but to attack anyone who disagrees. That's also why it feels like ego; at a certain point it stops seeming like a point he's making and starts feeling like a defense mechanism from a person who can't imagine his ideas not being totally convincing.
When I approach a question I answer by first laying down a foundation usually based on the scriptural text the principle is founded or some sort of definition supported by referemce material, or something based on some sort of verifiable, well documented source. When you all tend to disagree, I generally get a "nut-uh" based on a feeling or the general sense that you simply know better. When to me I see the only legitimate way to 'disagree' with a conclusion based on some sort of reference material is to provide a stronger reference or to show the the current reference material is being used in error. This rarely with only one or two people ever happens.
I get a general dismissal based on feeling. You guys claim you want 'proof', but when it it provided you default to faith. Bottom line is the majority simply do not Want to believe in anything they do not already acknowledge.