RE: Why do Atheists spend so much time debatng the existence of God?
October 15, 2013 at 7:34 am
(October 15, 2013 at 5:41 am)Tortino Wrote: Well, as a Christian, I can compare humans to an objective moral standard
No, you can't, since there's no such thing. What you're basically saying is: "Since I'm a Christian, I'm a pompous and self righteous douche."
Quote:Well, when the universe began to exist, space, time and matter began to exist. That means, prior to the universe, space, time and matter didn't exist.
That you can't know. Or are you up for the physics Nobel Prize 2014?
Quote:Well, we all have free will. Some people use religion for good, and unfortunately a lot use it for evil. That is why I shy away from the actions of people to determine if something is right or wrong. Rather, look at the doctrine.
Free will is a cop-out and the doctrine is a piece of shit. Yeah, I'm not impressed.
Quote:Crime exists, cancer exists, God exists?
No, religion does.
Quote:The burden is on the person making the claim. If I asked, "what do believe is the ultimate cause of the universe? a)Supernatural b) Natural c) Don't know. What would you answer? If you answer a or b, you have the burden. The only person who doesn't have he burden is c), an agnostic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KayBys8gaJY
Quote:This is what is frustrating when debating with atheists, their is a shifting between atheism and agnosticism when an argument is presented.
Don't project the inadequacy of your understanding onto others. Atheism is a stance on the belief of gods, gnosticism and agnosticism is about knowledge and certainty.
Quote:Imo, their is plenty of evidence for God's existence, typically the big 5, 1. KCA, design, moral argument, Jesus Christ and personal experience.
And I'm guessing you have scientific research and plenty of papers supporting your opinion. Personal experience, don't make me laugh!
Quote:What you find as satisfying is completely arbitrary.
It has nothing to do with what we find satisfying, the scientific method is followed by both atheists and theists in the field.
Quote:Again, if it is what gives meaning to someone, then who are you or anyone to say otherwise?
When done on a global scale, it's everyone's problem.
Quote:Really? I find it irrational debating about a being that you don't believe exists...Surely, there are better things to do in life...? No?
It's no different than any other book club, really.
Quote:As a Christian
Here you go again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSP3X4HKRb8
Quote:God has spoken, very clearly.
If you hear voices in your head, get professional help.
When I was young, there was a god with infinite power protecting me. Is there anyone else who felt that way? And was sure about it? but the first time I fell in love, I was thrown down - or maybe I broke free - and I bade farewell to God and became human. Now I don't have God's protection, and I walk on the ground without wings, but I don't regret this hardship. I want to live as a person. -Arina Tanemura
