RE: Believers don't believe
December 6, 2008 at 12:06 pm
(December 5, 2008 at 10:14 am)Dotard Wrote: Supports my contentions. If you truely believed this then you would sell everything and give it all away. Your talking a blink of an eye, eternally speaking, and ten fold rewards for eternity. If you don't give it all to the needy then you really don't believe in a reality of ten fold rewards for eternity.
I give to those who are in need. Me and a group of my friends were walking into a sandwich shop, and I saw a bum sitting on the sidewalk, and I handed him a five dollar bill, and that man looked at me and said, "Thank you! God bless you, son." Someone that has nothing in their life still depends of God. If that's not faith, then I don't know what is. Some of you should be ashamed.
Quote:Don't steal, don't kill, don't worship other Gods, don't hump the neighbors wife..... Do you really find these hard to abide by? Have you seen my neighbor's wife?! If you find these hard to abide by then you are one weak-assed puppy and should seek help from a mental health professional.
Yes, not to me, but I'm talking American society in general, Killing, cheating on your spouse, sleeping with the neighbors wife..etc..etc..,, that has become the American lifestyle. Actually the lifestyle of the entire world!! So Yes, these commandments are very hard to live by. Who would have thought a bunch of commandments from 3,000 years ago would still hold any relevance in 2008.
Quote:women and children was acceptable?!
In a time of war, even the innocent had to die.
Quote:Was Jesus God? Were they one in the same? Thou must readith thy bible more.
Show me where Jesus commanded his followers to kill, and then we can further this debate.
Quote:You really should read more. The God delusion can be scientificly measured.
I'm sorry, but no it cannot.
Quote:But since biologists discovered this I guess you auto-reject their findings huh?
I don't think a biologist is qualified to determine a mental disorder. Did you read the book "The Dawkins Delusion?" It was written by a psychiatrist.
Quote:I am receiving a vision from God right now and I'm writing down what God is telling me here within this reply. Why do you believe? Because some anceint dudes claimed it to be so and wrote it down! Do you know how absurd that makes you look?
If you claimed you received a vision from God.. who am I to say you didn't? I wasn't there, I cannot refute that claim. The same with "these ancient dudes." You cannot disprove their claim. Even though you probably think you have.
Quote:God mind reader!!
That right. And after he reads your posts, he buries his face in his hands.
Quote:Please share these answers with us. And please be able to support your answers with more than "I know what God is thinking."
Why should I share something with someone who doesn't believe?
Quote:And you cannot prove I am not an invisible leprechaun that lives in the internets.
What does an invisible leprechaun look like?
Quote:Bible says believe or you will not be in the book of life. Rev. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Sounds like a "worship me or else!" to me.
That verse is about the return of Nero! Re-read that verse, Einstein. It's talking about THOSE who WILL worship Nero when he returns to Power! I hope you're not a Bible scholar?
Quote:Again, supports my OP. Your belief would have to have 100% complete obsessive devotion because "on judgement day, it's all over for you.".
No, Jesus said "Believe in Me," and you shall be granted eternal life with the Father. And those who have rejected me, I will reject you in front of the Father.
Quote:Have to agree somewhat here. When one begins to use profanity they lose a bit of credibility, to the lesser minded. The astute knows a frustration induced bit of profanity does not distract from the point being made and can sometimes emphasize the point.
Yes, especially when this person dismissed the God-figure, but freely uses his name in a state of anger. Hmm?
Quote:Paschels wager.
Pascal's Wager is simple. I believe in God, so I win, but if God does not exist, I also win. Nothing more, Nothing less.
Quote:Where did you come to that conclusion? Do you know how absurd that makes you look? And you know this.. how? What scientist blessed you with such vast knowledge about our Universe?
There could be life beyond what mankind can reach. I cannot know that.
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That is exactly how your bible says it was created!
No,read Hebrews, It says, "God prepared the worlds with things that cannot be seen." "Atoms?"
Quote:Please share some of this proof with the class. Just keep in mind the bible is NOT proof.
Yes, the bible is proof. It's been proven over the centuries. Do you assume only insane and delusional people believe in the bible?
Quote:If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
Ok, Now I can see you are just being, either really ignorant, or you don't understand the bible one ioda. Jesus used the word Sin'ah in that verse. Sin'ah meant :to love lesser then: All Jesus was saying is, we must put God before anyone.
Quote:That would be my contention, yes.
You are confused.
Quote:That tidbit does not distract from the fact that it was your God that ordered folks to stone their children. And dash them upon the rocks. And be happy to do so.
Oh gee, "the dash little kids against rocks." That verse didnt mean little children.. it was talking about the Tribes of future generations of Israel! lmao!!!! Good Grief!!!
Quote:Jesus contradicting himself. Remember, Jesus was God.
That's correct. Jesus was God. No contradiction.
Quote:This is a question best asked of yourself.
Sorry, but I'm not affected by religion, You are! I believe in religion, so it's totally acceptable to discuss it. What's your excuse?
Quote:And somehow you think this was a good thing.
No, I didn't say it was a good thing. Now you are just adding words to my posts, and that lowers your credibility. I said, God had to take care of business. He knew the pagans were sacrificing their children in the name of their gods, so he commanded the Jews to take over their land and destroy them.