RE: Believers don't believe
December 5, 2008 at 10:14 am
(This post was last modified: December 5, 2008 at 10:23 am by Dotard.)
Christians donate money and food because Jesus said give to those in need. And your reward in Heaven will be ten fold.
Supports my contentions. If you truely believed this then you would sell everything and give it all away. Your talking a blink of an eye, eternally speaking, and ten fold rewards for eternity. If you don't give it all to the needy then you really don't believe in a reality of ten fold rewards for eternity.
Every single one of those commandments are THE hardest to abide by. Even in modern times...
Don't steal, don't kill, don't worship other Gods, don't hump the neighbors wife..... Do you really find these hard to abide by? Have you seen my neighbor's wife?! If you find these hard to abide by then you are one weak-assed puppy and should seek help from a mental health professional.
Neither the Qu'ran or the Holy Bible condone killing innocent women and children. In a time of warfare, yes, it was acceptable ....
Killing innocent women and children was acceptable?!
Because the Jesus I know didn't command his Disciples to murder people.
Was Jesus God? Were they one in the same? Thou must readith thy bible more.
I don't pick and choose, but I also know it's......
Point was one need not believe in God to yank passages out of a bible to support their positions. That in itself has nothing to do with "God". Understandable how that concept escapes you.
Mental patients that are delusional and insane are detected by medical examiners. Delusional patterns can be detected by science. So far, no signs of God being a mental disorder. Well, unless you read a book authored by a Biologist.
You really should read more. The God delusion can be scientificly measured. But since biologists discovered this I guess you auto-reject their findings huh?![[Image: freak3.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=smilies.vidahost.com%2Fcwm%2Fcwm%2Ffreak3.gif)
Because these ancient men claimed to receive visions from God. And they wrote down that God told them.....
I am receiving a vision from God right now and I'm writing down what God is telling me here within this reply. Why do you believe? Because some anceint dudes claimed it to be so and wrote it down! Do you know how absurd that makes you look?
I get this gut feeling sometimes.. I can know what God is thinking.
God mind reader!!![[Image: Looking_anim.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=smilies.vidahost.com%2Fotn%2Fshocked%2FLooking_anim.gif)
Believe me, I used to have the same exact questions you do, but I found the answers...
Please share these answers with us. And please be able to support your answers with more than "I know what God is thinking.".
"You cannot prove Jesus Christ wasn't God."
And you cannot prove I am not an invisible leprechaun that lives in the internets.
Nobody is forcing you to worship Jehovah or else!
Bible says believe or you will not be in the book of life. Rev. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Sounds like a "worship me or else!" to me.
Jesus was saying "live your life while you can, because on judgement day, it's all over for you."
Again, supports my OP. Your belief would have to have 100% complete obsessive devotion because "on judgement day, it's all over for you.".
Atheists lose so much credibility in debate sessions...
Have to agree somewhat here. When one begins to use profanity they lose a bit of credibility, to the lesser minded. The astute knows a frustration induced bit of profanity does not distract from the point being made and can sometimes emphasize the point.
He made the promise.. why would you risk your afterlife to be excruciating torment and misery for eternity?
Paschels wager.
There are no livable planets other than Earth.
Where did you come to that conclusion? Do you know how absurd that makes you look? And you know this.. how? What scientist blessed you with such vast knowledge about our Universe?
Sorry, but the universe being created from nothing is highly improbable.
That is exactly how your bible says it was created!
It's been proven. Just open your eyes...
Please share some of this proof with the class. Just keep in mind the bible is NOT proof.
"Jesus said we MUST HATE our parents in order to be his Disciple!" I cannot begin to explain how absurd that looks!
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
I haven't. Gee, maybe I'm not a true Disciple?
That would be my contention, yes.
Of course human civilization has changed in the last 4,000 years.
That tidbit does not distract from the fact that it was your God that ordered folks to stone their children. And dash them upon the rocks. And be happy to do so.
"You have heard it in the past that you are to hate your enemies, but verily I say unto you, Love your enemies,....
Jesus contradicting himself. Remember, Jesus was God.
They lived thousands and thousands of years ago... why are you so affected by this?
This is a question best asked of yourself.
I believe God commited mass-genocide in the O.T. I'm not ashamed of that.
And somehow you think this was a good thing.
Supports my contentions. If you truely believed this then you would sell everything and give it all away. Your talking a blink of an eye, eternally speaking, and ten fold rewards for eternity. If you don't give it all to the needy then you really don't believe in a reality of ten fold rewards for eternity.
Every single one of those commandments are THE hardest to abide by. Even in modern times...
Don't steal, don't kill, don't worship other Gods, don't hump the neighbors wife..... Do you really find these hard to abide by? Have you seen my neighbor's wife?! If you find these hard to abide by then you are one weak-assed puppy and should seek help from a mental health professional.
Neither the Qu'ran or the Holy Bible condone killing innocent women and children. In a time of warfare, yes, it was acceptable ....
![[Image: eek6.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=smilies.vidahost.com%2Fcwm%2Fcwm%2Feek6.gif)
Because the Jesus I know didn't command his Disciples to murder people.
Was Jesus God? Were they one in the same? Thou must readith thy bible more.
I don't pick and choose, but I also know it's......
Point was one need not believe in God to yank passages out of a bible to support their positions. That in itself has nothing to do with "God". Understandable how that concept escapes you.
Mental patients that are delusional and insane are detected by medical examiners. Delusional patterns can be detected by science. So far, no signs of God being a mental disorder. Well, unless you read a book authored by a Biologist.
You really should read more. The God delusion can be scientificly measured. But since biologists discovered this I guess you auto-reject their findings huh?
![[Image: freak3.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=smilies.vidahost.com%2Fcwm%2Fcwm%2Ffreak3.gif)
Because these ancient men claimed to receive visions from God. And they wrote down that God told them.....
I am receiving a vision from God right now and I'm writing down what God is telling me here within this reply. Why do you believe? Because some anceint dudes claimed it to be so and wrote it down! Do you know how absurd that makes you look?
I get this gut feeling sometimes.. I can know what God is thinking.
God mind reader!!
![[Image: Looking_anim.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=smilies.vidahost.com%2Fotn%2Fshocked%2FLooking_anim.gif)
Believe me, I used to have the same exact questions you do, but I found the answers...
Please share these answers with us. And please be able to support your answers with more than "I know what God is thinking.".
"You cannot prove Jesus Christ wasn't God."
And you cannot prove I am not an invisible leprechaun that lives in the internets.
Nobody is forcing you to worship Jehovah or else!
Bible says believe or you will not be in the book of life. Rev. 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Sounds like a "worship me or else!" to me.
Jesus was saying "live your life while you can, because on judgement day, it's all over for you."
Again, supports my OP. Your belief would have to have 100% complete obsessive devotion because "on judgement day, it's all over for you.".
Atheists lose so much credibility in debate sessions...
Have to agree somewhat here. When one begins to use profanity they lose a bit of credibility, to the lesser minded. The astute knows a frustration induced bit of profanity does not distract from the point being made and can sometimes emphasize the point.
He made the promise.. why would you risk your afterlife to be excruciating torment and misery for eternity?
Paschels wager.
There are no livable planets other than Earth.
Where did you come to that conclusion? Do you know how absurd that makes you look? And you know this.. how? What scientist blessed you with such vast knowledge about our Universe?
Sorry, but the universe being created from nothing is highly improbable.

It's been proven. Just open your eyes...
Please share some of this proof with the class. Just keep in mind the bible is NOT proof.
"Jesus said we MUST HATE our parents in order to be his Disciple!" I cannot begin to explain how absurd that looks!
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children,and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
I haven't. Gee, maybe I'm not a true Disciple?
That would be my contention, yes.
Of course human civilization has changed in the last 4,000 years.
That tidbit does not distract from the fact that it was your God that ordered folks to stone their children. And dash them upon the rocks. And be happy to do so.
"You have heard it in the past that you are to hate your enemies, but verily I say unto you, Love your enemies,....
Jesus contradicting himself. Remember, Jesus was God.
They lived thousands and thousands of years ago... why are you so affected by this?
This is a question best asked of yourself.
I believe God commited mass-genocide in the O.T. I'm not ashamed of that.
And somehow you think this was a good thing.
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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...the least christian thing a person can do is to become a christian. ~Chuck
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NO MA'AM
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