RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
October 17, 2013 at 4:38 pm
(This post was last modified: October 17, 2013 at 4:41 pm by Bob Kelso.)
(October 17, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You reverted back to the idolatry of the created order of things though it's not carved images in wood and stone you have reverence for it's human reason and science. These things are very good and have been to our benefit but they are tools of understanding given to us by God not as the ends to themselves. Once you say "Now that we have science we don't need God" it gets a bit serioushock:
Once again you're reverting to telling people your beliefs and working from a position that this is how things are.
There were plenty of non believers before the advent of modern science, granted they weren't very outspoken because death and torture are fantastic ways of controlling the 'heathens'. Don't blame me for using the tools at my disposal to disprove your god, that's like trying to shame a man for disproving magical faeries.
Quote:God is the creator of all that is yes. If he isn't the creator of all that is he is not God.Where did your god come from? Did he create himself? Are there an infinite line of gods creating other gods who in turn create more?
Quote:Pfffffft erm... ok?You, and all other theists that use this argument are off your damned rockers.
You can't prove the existence of God when you can only study what he created though.
How can you bloody well shrug your shoulders at years upon years of scientific study and achievement and say that god gave it to us and we can't possibly prove or disprove his existence with it? How damned convenient.
You can't take the creation of the universe and simply attribute it to some imaginary figure, what a giant pile of lazy shit that is.
"Oh things are just far too complex to simply be there. It must have been Zeus!'
You shake your faith at such a magnitude of evidence to the contrary that it's fucking laughable, and when it suits you theists you attempt to conform the theories of science to your god saying you never said they couldn't work in unison. Anything to sell your product right?