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Hell and imperfections in the universe
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RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe
(October 19, 2013 at 4:48 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote:
(October 19, 2013 at 2:58 pm)Rationalman Wrote: Nope he has it right. God created the whole situation in the first place.

He gave us freewill and so we have the capacity of sin and evil, these things tear us away from God and heaven. Heaven is not just a place you go when you die you can see it a state of being, something you can realize here on Earth right now as Jesus himself taught. You can also have a read of Genesis providing you take the story as a parable for the human condition and our relationship to our creator. Yes it's a myth but a myth with true meaning.


Quote:Who's fault is it if you refuse to pay protection money to the godfather and his thugs break your legs?

You don't have the right idea as a creature of God made in his image God loves you and saves you from sin, death and hell and brings you into eternal life. He can't force you into it of course, but as C.S Lewis said death isn't necessarily the cut-off point for accepting it. Now the God of Islam perhaps would be closer to the godfather analogy, you reject him the way you're doing and he will throw you into a literal hell fire that will burn off all your flesh and then regenerate it all and burn it off again. The Christian God loves everyone and the Islamic God and other versions of God only love certain people. A bit of William Lane Craig for you here.

Quote:With your line of reasoning it would be the persons fault for not paying. Can you not see how ridiculous that is?

It would be if that's how it was meant to work. But you got it all wrong.

Remember that time God gave people free will, didn't like what they were doing with their free will, and then proceeded to kill them all with a flood?

Good times.
ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water

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RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Godschild - October 19, 2013 at 12:07 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Thor - October 19, 2013 at 2:06 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Simon Moon - October 19, 2013 at 2:21 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Cinjin - October 19, 2013 at 6:30 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 19, 2013 at 2:58 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by CleanShavenJesus - October 20, 2013 at 6:27 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 19, 2013 at 4:29 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by professor - October 19, 2013 at 4:46 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 19, 2013 at 5:06 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 20, 2013 at 10:09 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 20, 2013 at 3:06 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 20, 2013 at 7:50 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bob Kelso - October 20, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 20, 2013 at 6:23 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by themonkeyman - October 20, 2013 at 7:01 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Tonus - October 21, 2013 at 10:44 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 21, 2013 at 2:38 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Dionysius - October 21, 2013 at 8:51 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Drich - October 21, 2013 at 10:14 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 21, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Drich - October 21, 2013 at 11:13 am
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 21, 2013 at 1:02 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Drich - October 21, 2013 at 2:57 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Cinjin - October 21, 2013 at 12:12 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Drich - October 21, 2013 at 12:48 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Cinjin - October 21, 2013 at 4:37 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 21, 2013 at 2:59 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Drich - October 21, 2013 at 4:03 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 21, 2013 at 5:25 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Cinjin - October 21, 2013 at 5:35 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Bad Wolf - October 21, 2013 at 5:33 pm
RE: Hell and imperfections in the universe - by Tonus - October 21, 2013 at 7:15 pm

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