RE: Theists, some questions
October 22, 2013 at 8:13 pm
(This post was last modified: October 22, 2013 at 8:16 pm by Simon Moon.)
(October 22, 2013 at 7:45 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You can have reasoned argument for it.
I am quite familiar with all the so called evidence for the resurrection of Jesus.
None of it holds up to actual scrutiny.
Quote:But you can't know whether it happened or not so you will have to take it on trust AKA faith. I wouldn't base all your belief on God on just this event alone however but for Christianity it's central, if he wasn't raised then it ain't true. But the Muslims or whoever could still be right as they don't believe this happened either, a different faith there.
Faith is not the path to truth. And you just pointed out the flaw with using faith, every religion has faith in mutually exclusive claims. And there is no way to discern the difference between the ones you believe are true and the ones Muslims, Zoroasrians, Hindus, etc believe are true.
Quote:Same way you would as you the difference between right and wrong thanks to Gods Moral Law and you're sane. If you weren't sane and heard voices then you may well kill and claim God told you.
There is zero reason to invoke a god in order to explain morality. Natural and cultural explanations work fine.
Quote:We're subject to Gods Moral Law so what we have is a conscious, we feel guilt about harming others, feel compassion for others and so on. That's a good guide as to Gods morality there the one written in your heart.
You still haven't answered whether you'd kill someone if God ordered you to.
I'll put it to you again.
If you received a command that you knew came from God to kill someone, that as far as you could tell, is a good person, would you do it?
If your faith is as strong as you claim, you should have no more problems carrying this command than you would if you received a command to help the needy.
Why are you avoiding the question? It seems simple enough.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.