(October 29, 2013 at 1:43 am)freedomfromfallacy Wrote:(October 29, 2013 at 12:32 am)Drich Wrote: Blah, blah, blah, the bible, the bible, the bible...(My representation - click green arrow to see in context)
Your bible proves nothing. You are deceived.
You missed my point entirely - The bible's lies are bullshit.
Swing and a miss, Strike 3! Hey, at least you tried. Most won't even do that. Even so, we need to do a failure analysis of you arguement.
You started under the persumption that the 'catholic' identification of 'Gluttony' is a sin was biblically based. However as we explored the bible, you found out that persumption is not consistant with biblical Christianity. Although without doubt, gluttony is frowned upon in the bible, it is never identified as a sin. This does not mean in certain version of christianity gluttony isn't identified as a sin.
From this initial persumption, you saw an oppertunity to persecute fat christians as hypocrites, it appears even in the beginning you saw an oppertunity to take it a step further by adding personal insults.
This in itself if a failure of the understanding of basic Christianity. As we are not expected to live a perfect life. Christ died so that our 'best' however short of perfection that is, is all that is now required.
Now because your OP is based on the biblical identification of Gluttony as a sin, the bible (no matter what you personally think of it) is now a viable point of reference to refute your claims of what the bible/christianity does indeed says about gluttony. Now that it appears that you have conceeded your gluttony arguement (that it is a Christian Sin) Any further persection of fat people Christian or not, is just good old fashion biggotry/Intolerance on your part. Simply Because there is no hyprocrisy there, not to mention the fact that even if there were, it could be forgiven. That leaves Only hate, and the Need to persecute Fat Christians.