(October 30, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Godschild Wrote:Your humility is recognized and admired, but now is not the time to be so humble with your wisdom. Who among us is better qualified to answer such a question? Perhaps, GC, you don't want to point out the essence for me; rather, tell me of some attribute of which attaches to it, or to which it is attached?(October 30, 2013 at 8:20 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: Tell me, because if anybody knows this, it is surely you. Does God approve it because it's holy, or is it Holy because it gets approved by God?
I'm not trying to say I know more than any other Christian when it comes to explaining what is holy. I'm not going to go through this with some who are involved in this thread, putting up with their undignified tripe is not what I came here for. The answer to the "Tell me" question is neither.
GC
Please don't keep me in the dark, but tell me from the beginning what it is to be holy. Perhaps Justice is the quality? Is all that is just holy, or is it the case that all that's holy is just?
Whereas not all that's just is holy-meaning part of it's holy and part of it is something else?
If I am not making myself clear, it is due to the lack of wisdom I hold on this subject, and your patience is gratefully appreciated. Let me make a comparison so that you may understand my question better.
It is said that where fear is found, there is also shame, but I don't believe this. Because there are people in fear of death and disease, and they are fearful without shame.
It's perhaps more accurate to say that wherever there is shame, there is also found fear. Fear of feeling shameful in the eyes of others and fear of an unfavorable reputation.
Shame is a division of fear. If holy can be recognized, it is surely measured with comparison to that which it is not as well as that which it relates to, and easily recognized as such. Like the example of numbers I gave previously: odd and even being a division of numbers.
Anyone that professes the knowledge of God's will that you no doubt have can easily show me the answer, as you undoubtedly have contemplated this very thing before you yourself you proclaim to know what it is to be holy. Teach me so that I don't follow into the footsteps of others that were not fortunate enough to know what scale through which holiness is measured. Show me your proof so that I may continue to share it with others in my defense of holiness.
Pay no mind to the others, and do not fear their ridicule. For when the trueness of your words are revealed, they too will have the means to be holy, and they too can be saved.
