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"Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
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RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF?
(January 31, 2010 at 11:03 pm)tackattack Wrote: I can't ask for citations of logic and reason? Well that's a first. Since I'm not farmiliar with the thread where you proved there is no meaning to life and you are unwilling to provide it I'll start. Since I believe that there is meaning to life the burden of proof will probably fall on me in a debate anyways. I don't feel my view is limited, but please open my eyes. If it's all been said before please point me in that direction, but let's leave the Ad Hominemand Ad Fontem out of it ok?

Ok first definitions:
A- Life is a characteristic that distinguishes objects that have self-sustaining biological processes from those that do not.
B-Purpose is a result, end, aim, or goal of an action intentionally undertaken
C- Meaning is to serve or intend to convey, show, or indicate. Meaning is a relationship between two sorts of things: signs and the kinds of things they mean (intend, express or signify)
D-Sign is defined as an entity that indicates another entity to some agent for some purpose

1-When given the option of life or death general rational acceptance would be for life
2-Choice proves intentionality of life.
3-Therefore intentional choosing to live is defined as having a purpose.
4-The most base purpose then being sustaining biological processes.
5-The result of sustaining a biological process is significant because it impacts others
6-The significance varies by agent
7- Therefore Life has purpose and significance that varies between agents.
8-Therefore Life has meaning

So if I choose not to die then I am giving myself 'purpose'.
This seems like clumsy use of language to me.
This is an action that any creature would do on instinct.
Would you call instinct 'purpose' I wouldn't.

But even if you insist on your use of 'purpose' I would still say that life lacks all meaning.

Shit happens.

That is all



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"Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF? - by leo-rcc - January 21, 2010 at 10:04 am
RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF? - by LEDO - January 22, 2010 at 9:06 pm
RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF? - by LEDO - January 23, 2010 at 3:33 pm
RE: "Old" atheism, "New"atheism, atheism 3.0, WTF? - by downbeatplumb - February 1, 2010 at 3:35 pm

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