Things I learned in church

[Drich]

Just thought I would share some quotes from Christians I have interacted with that still to this day stands out in my mind. Even theists that I have shared these with have done double takes at them so I'm really interested to see what you guys think about these. Good people go to hell, saved people go to heaven.
I was told this by the pastor of the baptist church I went to. It's interesting to me because usually they'll justify it by saying the people have done bad things, but he is actually bold enough to use the word good. But wait, there's more:

Saved people goto heaven, and there are no truly 'good people.' That term according to God is subjective, and only describes the best amongst the worst. Kinda like the term a good or honorable Nazi. Even if a Nazi is good or honorable compared to his comrades he in the end is still a nazi.

"Satan doesn't torture people in hell, God does."
I wish I was joking. This is usually where they blame Satan. Not this time. The idea that God tortures people for eternity for not believing in him isn't too much of a stretch if you researched the old testament. He isn't exactly shy about getting his hands dirty. But the idea that there are people who actually accepts it is kind of terrifying...

1/2 right. Satan does not torture people in Hell as he has been sent there to be punished for all eternity. It is hard to torment when one is being tormented.
As far as that goes Hell is the absents of God. The torment comes for. Our nature of being a member of creation, and suddenly being seperated form it for all of eternity. Hell in of itself is torment, there is no need for one to actively torment you.

People will believe anything to avoid the truth.
This speaks for itself.

indeed.

Global Warming doesn't exist because there's no proof that it does.

The fact that we are not still in an ice age says the planet has been warming. The carbon crap is just revenue generating properganda. The planet yearly average temp is based on solar output and our proximity to the sun as out orbit is elipitical and not a true round orbit.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara...l-warming/

http://news.discovery.com/earth/global-w...-real1.htm

These two link show a history of global climate change that has the same co2 responsible for both results. Now the world is warming and it is because on co2 in the 60 70s and early 80s we were all going to be in an ice age by 2010 because of co2 emissions. Now we are warming because of it.

I am a refrigeration Engeneer, I design systems to perform in certain temp ranges under a given heat load. In order for on to caculate a heat load one must have a known constant heat source, this heat source must always be the same In Order to establish a k factor. A K factor here is a measure of a substances thermal conductivity. With a k factor we can determine an r value or a resistance to heat which is what we are basically saying global warming or cooling is occouring via co2.

The co2 is in essence a insulation that (depending on which theory you currently subscribe to) resists heat causing the temp to fall or insulates us like a blanket keeping heat in. The problem with assigning an "r-value" to the increase of co2 in our atmosphere... We do not have a fact based k factor to compare it to, I say that because we do not a heat coeffectient to compare it to. (We can not know that the solar output of the sun was for the co2 sampling we may have for a given year.)

While ice core samples can give us an understanding of what the co2 levels were 1000 years ago, we do not know the k-factor or solar output of the sun 1000 years ago. With out this critical data (the heat load placed on the planet by solar output) all any douche bag is doing when he say it is warmer or cooler because of co2 is just guessing.

Why would people/governments do this? To sell you on a whole new world of taxes. To force us from dependency of foreign energy sources (not a bad thing, just a terrible way to do it.)
Which is exactly what almost happened in 2006. But in that winter it was colder than it had been for a 100 years, subsequently that is why the PC term is now global climate change rather than global warming. So now no matter what happens you need to buy a hybrid and 'carbon credits.'

Harry Potter is bad, he breaks the rules and gets his friends in trouble and magic is bad. Also, wizards are fighting other wizards, a house divided against itself cannot stand.
Paraphrasing since I can't remember the exact quote, but still. Huh? 1.) It's a work of fiction. 2.) Was there really a need to throw the bible quote in there?

the only thing worse than a Harry potter book is a Harry potter movie. Not because of the witch craft but because of general bad writting and poor imagination suckiness. The church just needs to leave that alone and let that one die on the vine. It's a generational thing kill Roy, buck Rogers, or dick Tracy. Sure there are those who still follow some of those old icons, but they are the exception and not the rule. In a generation or two it's going to be Harry who?

Lesson: how to witness to cults
Okay, this sounds interesting. What do you got?

the same way you do anyone else. Listen to what they have to say answer any questions that you can, and point them in the right direction if/when the time comes.

Cults: Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Muslims, Wiccans
one man's cult is another man's religion.

so?

People who believe in evolution are only throwing mud at the wall in the hopes that it sticks.
If that's them winging it I DO NOT want to see them when they're using their brains.

why does it have to be one or the other? Why couldn't both have happened?
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html