(November 4, 2013 at 5:30 pm)Dionysius Wrote:(November 4, 2013 at 4:59 pm)John V Wrote: Yes, key point being that it's Satan who attacks, as you note yourself.
Not Satan's idea?
Job 1
9 So Satan answered the Lord and said, “Does Job fear God for nothing? 10 Have You not made a hedge around him, around his household, and around all that he has on every side? You have blessed the work of his hands, and his possessions have increased in the land. 11 But now, stretch out Your hand and touch all that he has, and he will surely curse You to Your face!”
Are you bat shit stupid?
It was God that brought Job up, not satan. It was God's hand (Job 2:10;Job 19:21) that afflicted Job, satan was just a means to an end.
Smarten up McFly.
Actually YOU are the one making yourself appear ignorant. It is satan who is the instigator of Jobs affliction.
Job 1:1
"In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil."
That is where the story starts and where it should end happily ever after.
But....
Enter satan. And at Job 2:3 we see that it is satan who tries to incite God against him to ruin him without any reason.
Job 2:3
"Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
Does God stretch out His hand to afflict Job?
No! It is satan who does so.
Naturally satan the gutless taunts God, baiting Him to afflict Job. (Verse 4)
But God doesn't fall for it and hence satan is denied the chance to blame the whole thing back on God when Job (rightly) contemplates what's going on. God clearly warns satan "...he is in your hands"
Read carefully. It is satan who afflicts Job.
Job 2:7
"So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head."
