(November 4, 2013 at 6:47 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:(November 4, 2013 at 5:30 pm)Dionysius Wrote: Are you bat shit stupid?
It was God that brought Job up, not satan. It was God's hand (Job 2:10;Job 19:21) that afflicted Job, satan was just a means to an end.
Smarten up McFly.
Actually YOU are the one making yourself appear ignorant. It is satan who is the instigator of Jobs affliction.
Job 1:1
"In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job. This man was blameless and upright; he feared God and shunned evil."
That is where the story starts and where it should end happily ever after.
But....
Enter satan. And at Job 2:3 we see that it is satan who tries to incite God against him to ruin him without any reason.
Job 2:3
"Then the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job? There is no one on earth like him; he is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil. And he still maintains his integrity, though you incited me against him to ruin him without any reason.”
Does God stretch out His hand to afflict Job?
No! It is satan who does so.
Naturally satan the gutless taunts God, baiting Him to afflict Job. (Verse 4)
But God doesn't fall for it and hence satan is denied the chance to blame the whole thing back on God when Job (rightly) contemplates what's going on. God clearly warns satan "...he is in your hands"
Read carefully. It is satan who afflicts Job.
Job 2:7
"So Satan went out from the presence of the Lord and afflicted Job with painful sores from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head."
I'm going to state the facts one last time for the logic impaired:
1) God ask satan if he has considered Job.
2) Satan acknowledges that he has BUT can't test him because God protects him.
3) God removes his protection from Job.
4) Satan attacks Job.
5) Job is AFU whining like a stuck pig wondering why God allowed satan to attack him.
6) Job calls his wife a batty old whore when she tells him to give God the bird recounting the biblical fact that God causes evil and good to befall mankind.
7) God makes an appearance and tells Job he is a dumbass
8) Job is reconciled with God with greater abundance attributed to his testing - he understands now.
9) End of fairy tale.
"This time the bullet cold rocked ya a yellow ribbon instead of a swastika?" -RATM