(November 7, 2013 at 9:29 am)plaincents822 Wrote: I can tell you that one right we don't seem to have is being able to talk about how we may be wronged by society in any way. I'm not saying we are the ultimate victim of society, but look at the bolded sections in each quote. We are one of only a few groups, who when we vocalize that we may be treated unfairly that it is socially acceptable to just casually dismiss us.Since I'm one of the ones you bolded, I'd like to point out that the majority of my post dealt with issues in which men ARE treated unfairly in ways that hurt society as a whole.
I'll add another issue here that someone else touched on earlier: rape. Rape of men (by men or women) is treated as a joke, which is shameful and reflects harmful stereotypes.
Quote: If a women's group stated that they were having specific rights violated and I just casually dismissed what they thought I would be branded a misogynist. But it is ok to do so with men because it's thought that "Men have no problems."Men have problems, and AS I SAID, some of those problems are a result of societal bias. In the entire fabric of human society, however, it's just ridiculous to claim that men are oppressed as a group. There are areas of bias, but it doesn't really compare to the institutional, systematic, centuries-old oppression of anyone with a vagina.
Luckily, we don't have to compare the two to be outraged at cultural misogyny or to be outraged at the treatment of male rape victims. Both are bad things.
Quote: And if we are not cast aside because it's thought we don't have problems, then generally the other reaction towards men that advocate for their own rights is that we are women hating pieces of shit.I'm not sure what rights you are speaking of. If you're fighting for the right to have better birth control for men, you will find no advocates more passionate than feminists. What right is it that you think men are fighting for that cause people to call them woman-haters?
