The Men's Rights Movement: I Just Don't Get It.

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You are confusing me. You seem to have been arguing throughout this thread that feminists do support equal rights for men, and the men's rights movement is effectively pointless (my interpretation of your words).

You said: "properly executed feminism basically is egalitarianism"

If this is true, then I'm afraid that by that statement, we should expect feminists to take up causes based around inequality of men.

Sorry, maybe I'm not being clear : I think of it in terms of genres, sort of. The overarching goal of feminism is gender equality, meaning men's rights and women's rights equally, but the current action plan is redressing systemic inequalities regarding women specifically.

Now, that doesn't mean there's a lack of interest in men's rights, or even antipathy toward acting on them; I feel- and many other feminists do too, from what I've heard- that the knock on consequences of the current feminist movement will also have positive effects for men too, in a number of the areas that men's rights activists complain about. After all, disabling the current structure of stereotypical gender roles would not only remove the disadvantages women have, but also balance out the unfair advantages they have in issues like custody disputes, etc.

I also take issue with your statement that the inequality of men in society is "literally the opposite of their group" when talking about feminists. I'm sorry, but the 'literal' opposite of feminism is the oppression of women, not the men's rights movement.

Fair point.

One more nit-pick:

Do racial equality groups need to start solving the problems white people have?

Yes, of course they should. A racial equality group by definition should be trying to solve all the problems associated with racial equality, regardless of the race. I believe you probably meant "<insert-non-white-race-here> equality groups".

Yep, I think so. Good catch.