(November 7, 2013 at 7:14 pm)Zazzy Wrote:(November 7, 2013 at 6:22 pm)plaincents822 Wrote: We are an oppressed group though. Again we are so oppressed that we don't have the option most of the time to say we are without facing ridicule.Well, if this is the world you see around you, I'm not going to convince you otherwise, but it's a different planet than the place I live in. Good luck with that.
Quote:But the right that men are really fighting for is just the right to say how we feel. Like I said, we can't even say that we feel oppressed without it becoming a debateI don't see anyone anywhere telling men what they can and cannot say- this sounds suspiciously like being pissed off when people disagree with what you say. If you don't want to be seen as a whiner, then don't whine.
Quote:Personally, I think the main reason for this is because we used to be the oppressors. But we are not anymore and have not for a few generations, save for a few assholes.And you wonder why people may react badly to your viewpoint? This is one of the most asinine statements I've ever seen on this forum. Again, good luck with winning the hearts and minds of women with this.
This is exactly what I am talking about. I gave you a few good examples and instead of responding to any of them you dismissed them and said I am living on another planet. I have no problem when people disagree with me, what I do have a problem with is people disagreeing with me, dismissing me, calling me delusional, a whiner and asinine, and without so much as a response to the topics I brought up.
Do you not see how this is the very problem I am talking about? How men are simply dismissed if we decided to bring up anything about how we may be treated unfairly.
And what is so offensive about that statement really? I said we used to be the oppressors but we are not anymore (at least in Western culture).
