RE: Yahweh, the Devil, and Job
November 12, 2013 at 5:51 am
(This post was last modified: November 12, 2013 at 5:52 am by Mystical.)
(November 11, 2013 at 10:16 am)John V Wrote: DING DING DING! Give the man (sort of) a cigar! (Just don't ask him what he's going to do with it.)Not everyone finds an alternative use for long cylindrical objects like you do, John.
JohnV Wrote:Quote:but the donut, had it been imbibed, would have fulfilled a need.No, it would have fulfilled a desire. If I had needed it, I would have gone and gotten it. It was within my power to do so. Since it was only a desire, I had the option not to get it.
Not true. I have a prescription waiting at the pharmacy right now that I need and if I don't get my body will shut down within 24 hrs. I'm not breaking into the pharmacy to get it right now am I? Even though I'm going through physical withdrawals of not having whatever the thyroid releases daily? You can have needs and choose not to fulfill them. God doesn't have any need for obedience. If anything it would be a want, which brings us back to: god is a selfish bastard. What was your counter argument to that? I missed it.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.