GC
"An angel, he rolled away the stone, the angel knew Jesus was going to raise from the dead, no need to steal the body. Just like a lot of ancient history we assume it to be true..."
This is your answer? Really? The young man was an angel and Mark forgot to mention it?
You go on to say just like a lot of history we assume it to be true - an ANGEL???!!! I don't recall any item of history outside of a religious text that cites an imaginary being and then assumes it to be true - do you?
"It was easier to roll the stone in front of the tomb but it probably took more than one person. However it would have taken several men to roll it away as there was a large dip the stone was rolled into. The dip was there so people would not be able to roll away the stone and rob the grave."
What dip? Mark doesn't mention a dip? Even if there was a dip (and maybe a padlock - who knows) the young man was there to help presumably.
"You see it as embellished, I see more detailed stories being told, we see this today in news report, right."
Over a period of a day, maybe a week - not 30 years or more. "News just in - we can confirm that Nixon is no longer president of the US."
Extremely poor GC - I mean honestly.
Drich,
Every reference I have found refers to Mark as the oldest Gospel. If you know different have at it.
"The Gospel According to Mark (Greek: κατὰ Μᾶρκον εὐαγγέλιον, τὸ εὐαγγέλιον κατὰ Μᾶρκον, to euangelion kata Markon), commonly shortened to the Gospel of Mark or simply Mark, is the second book of the New Testament. This canonical account of the life of Jesus of Nazareth is one of the three synoptic gospels. It was thought to be an epitome, which accounts for its place as the second gospel in the Bible. However, most contemporary scholars now regard it as the earliest of the canonical gospels[1] (c 70).[2] That Mark was used as a source for the other synoptic gospels, the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke, is widely held by many, although not all, New Testament scholars"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark
It does say not all scholars agree but I'll go with the majority. I don't have a horse in the race so it seems a reasonable position.
"They knew if that body did not stay in the grave they would loose their hold on their people."
Well now - and how do you know what they knew? Anything to back that statement up. In the meantime, of course, the body did leave the grave and yet strangely they didn't lose their hold on the people.
"does it say it was on flate ground or an incline when being rolled into place? If it were on an incline it would be easy to put into place but next to impossiable to move alone. Which would be ideal if you wanted to keep grave robbers out. (Remember this was his grave initially, and keeping grave robbers out would have been a key buying point for a man of means.)"
It doesn't say anything about the ground - should we assume it was on an incline? I'm glad you haven't invented a dip like others appear to want to do - but if it was on an incline who is to say the stone was rolled away uphill? I also questioned whether it was his grave afterall. There's scant evidence for that. We only have his word for it - and if he is a grave-robber as I have suggested then that may not be worth much.
Overall - slightly better than GC - but only slightly.
"An angel, he rolled away the stone, the angel knew Jesus was going to raise from the dead, no need to steal the body. Just like a lot of ancient history we assume it to be true..."
This is your answer? Really? The young man was an angel and Mark forgot to mention it?
You go on to say just like a lot of history we assume it to be true - an ANGEL???!!! I don't recall any item of history outside of a religious text that cites an imaginary being and then assumes it to be true - do you?
"It was easier to roll the stone in front of the tomb but it probably took more than one person. However it would have taken several men to roll it away as there was a large dip the stone was rolled into. The dip was there so people would not be able to roll away the stone and rob the grave."
What dip? Mark doesn't mention a dip? Even if there was a dip (and maybe a padlock - who knows) the young man was there to help presumably.
"You see it as embellished, I see more detailed stories being told, we see this today in news report, right."
Over a period of a day, maybe a week - not 30 years or more. "News just in - we can confirm that Nixon is no longer president of the US."
Extremely poor GC - I mean honestly.
Drich,
Every reference I have found refers to Mark as the oldest Gospel. If you know different have at it.
"The Gospel According to Mark (Greek: κατὰ Μᾶρκον εὐαγγέλιον, τὸ εὐαγγέλιον κατὰ Μᾶρκον, to euangelion kata Markon), commonly shortened to the Gospel of Mark or simply Mark, is the second book of the New Testament. This canonical account of the life of Jesus of Nazareth is one of the three synoptic gospels. It was thought to be an epitome, which accounts for its place as the second gospel in the Bible. However, most contemporary scholars now regard it as the earliest of the canonical gospels[1] (c 70).[2] That Mark was used as a source for the other synoptic gospels, the Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke, is widely held by many, although not all, New Testament scholars"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel_of_Mark
It does say not all scholars agree but I'll go with the majority. I don't have a horse in the race so it seems a reasonable position.
"They knew if that body did not stay in the grave they would loose their hold on their people."
Well now - and how do you know what they knew? Anything to back that statement up. In the meantime, of course, the body did leave the grave and yet strangely they didn't lose their hold on the people.
"does it say it was on flate ground or an incline when being rolled into place? If it were on an incline it would be easy to put into place but next to impossiable to move alone. Which would be ideal if you wanted to keep grave robbers out. (Remember this was his grave initially, and keeping grave robbers out would have been a key buying point for a man of means.)"
It doesn't say anything about the ground - should we assume it was on an incline? I'm glad you haven't invented a dip like others appear to want to do - but if it was on an incline who is to say the stone was rolled away uphill? I also questioned whether it was his grave afterall. There's scant evidence for that. We only have his word for it - and if he is a grave-robber as I have suggested then that may not be worth much.
Overall - slightly better than GC - but only slightly.
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