Yahweh, the Devil, and Job

[Mystical]

well shit Cinjin. If we don't have a disagreed among the bunch, what will we therefore talk about now? The reason I come into convos like this is for a better understanding of why someone would or could support the idea of a just god. Granted I still don't understand but that's part of it. Figuring what goes on in an individuals head when they have a total opposite viewpoint than yours, and whether common ground can be found is why I enjoy this forum.

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You have not come close to addressing my contention, you've just restated your original position, as if that carries any weight.

Does he EVER address it?

Please. The man is not here to address anything. He's here to perfect a cyclical march through conversations.

What if..... he's actually here trying to address stuff?

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Just avoiding hypocrisy.

In Job, God derives pleasure and glory from Job's obedience. He allows Job to suffer, as obedience through suffering is greater than obedience with reward, and so would bring God greater pleasure.

I don't judge god for doing this because I do the same thing. So do you, and probably everyone on here. We place our own pleasure and glory above the suffering of others all the time. The difference between me and you is that I admit it, but you'll attempt to rationalize it.

I read this and addressed this. oh and the donut thing

So firstly I never got a reply about my post stating that there's always a need of some kind for a donut. Counter argument? Maybe with scientific evidence that we want things without fulfilling a need in the want or fulfillment of the want?
Next, do you believe god did or did not know the outcome of Jobs test beforehand?
Doesnt the Bible quote the events Job endures are enacted by god?