(November 13, 2013 at 4:12 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: Once again, you drag God down to the place of men. Morality is here to help humans interact with each other in a way that is best for everyone. The morals for Man are absolute.I'm not sure I understand. You seem to be saying that since god is so superior to humans, his actions cannot be judged by humans and therefore his actions are moral by definition. Humans may be subject to absolute morals, but not god. That is one way to see the issue.
Remember the immortal soul.
Then you explain that god's killing of innocents is not immoral because he can effectively "make it right" (or even make it better) due to his command of the gift of life and consciousness. That's different, because it narrows it to one specific act, and then we'd need to justify any other absolute morals, such as "lying to someone who has a right to the truth." If god committed this act, is it immoral for him to do so, or is it moral because god is above human morals, or is there some way that he can make such a situation right that humans cannot?
My impression is that most Christians here see it as the former; that god, as the supreme power of the universe and creator of all that exists, has free reign over his creation and cannot be judged by that creation. For some, the rationalization ends there, while others point out that there is an element of "might makes right."
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
