I love this fff, it's exactly my sentiments since we talked and I look forward to trying to get to the point you are at (right now I'm trying to pull in the dividing line). It's hard, but I'm coming to realize that just like I take each individual I meet based on their merits, I should do the same for the theists I encounter on this forum. In the end we aren't as different as we think. I think that anger is a natural progression of deconversion. Some never progress past that point, hence the stereotypes atheists have incurred over the years. I'm trying to find a level ground with a Christian forum I've been a member of for years-- they witnessed my deconversion, now I want them to see that I'm still me and I do love them. I think you have the basic spirit of what we should all strive for, keep at it You're a good ambassador.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.