RE: Theists, some questions
November 13, 2013 at 10:19 pm
(This post was last modified: November 13, 2013 at 10:26 pm by GodsRevolt.)
(November 13, 2013 at 4:44 pm)Tonus Wrote:(November 13, 2013 at 4:12 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: Once again, you drag God down to the place of men. Morality is here to help humans interact with each other in a way that is best for everyone. The morals for Man are absolute.I'm not sure I understand. You seem to be saying that since god is so superior to humans, his actions cannot be judged by humans and therefore his actions are moral by definition. Humans may be subject to absolute morals, but not god. That is one way to see the issue.
Remember the immortal soul.
Then you explain that god's killing of innocents is not immoral because he can effectively "make it right" (or even make it better) due to his command of the gift of life and consciousness. That's different, because it narrows it to one specific act, and then we'd need to justify any other absolute morals, such as "lying to someone who has a right to the truth." If god committed this act, is it immoral for him to do so, or is it moral because god is above human morals, or is there some way that he can make such a situation right that humans cannot?
My impression is that most Christians here see it as the former; that god, as the supreme power of the universe and creator of all that exists, has free reign over his creation and cannot be judged by that creation. For some, the rationalization ends there, while others point out that there is an element of "might makes right."
This is not, "might makes right." This is "God created you, knows you for who you are and who you could be, and knows what is best for you even before you know it."
(November 13, 2013 at 10:14 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote:(November 13, 2013 at 10:08 pm)GodsRevolt Wrote: I'm quoting myself now . . . ?
Yes. And I'm sure I've said it a couple times, "When God speaks, you listen."
Can I get an apology for the schmuck comment?
You didn't answer, schmuck.
Bold and underline added.
Apology? Just between two gentlemen? That's alright. I've already forgiven you. God told me to.

(November 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm)TheBeardedDude Wrote: Right, let's put this back on track GR
Would you?
As a side note, is that video in your signature Tre Cool?
". . . let the atheists themselves choose a god. They will find only one divinity who ever uttered their isolation; only one religion in which God seemed for an instant to be an atheist." -G. K. Chesterton