(November 18, 2013 at 9:17 pm)themonkeyman Wrote: I know that the Universe is technically infinite so 'Chance' is very unlikely as I am sure there is other life out there.Oh, you are so wrong. The universe is not infinite, nothing is infinite. There is no such thing as infinite, it's a concept that exists only in mathematics and not in the real world, the real world is finite - no matter how big, it's still finite.
Yes, chance cannot play a role. Just as the laws of chemistry don't exist by chance, nor do the laws of biology, and nor does the process by which life starts, everything has its order in its own set of rules that are derived from - or formed out of the environment in which they operate. How and why we do not know.
If there is true randomness at the quantum level as predicted by QM, it still manages to produce order, and if it is purely ordered, then it produces chaos and choice and true randomness at the meta scale.
Does life really self-start, and if so how? I think it does, but we have no idea how it does only to say that just as the laws of crystallography exist, seemingly without clear reason or logic, so does the rudimentary fundamental biological laws. If this is really the case though, and I should stress this point, then life should have been created trillions upon trillions of times by now here on Earth, and there should be new life forms self-starting all the time - not based on some "primordial soup" stage of Earth or any of that nonsense, and it should be observable. So I do predict that someday we will observe it, however as at yet we haven't and it could well be that I'm wrong and that only God and not the laws of nature (which of course he created) is able to create life itself.
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
