Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: July 21, 2025, 7:12 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
(November 20, 2013 at 12:52 am)MindForgedManacle Wrote: So let me get this straight Drich. Your argument for why God's logically inferior method of letting his creations take the reigns is better is because of... freedom of religion as a result? What? Had God himself done the job (which was the suggestion you completely dodged), it would have been executed perfectly, oon your worldview.
Big Grin So you think it was moses who parted the red sea, moses who sent the plagues to egypt, Moses who took his finger and wrote the 10 commandments into stone, and thought it was Moses' strength and power who saw israel to victory after victory???

Truth known? God DID Set up Judaism Himself, and over time 'we'/man/jews though our afinity to worship Religion it self perverted what God had established.

When we are given a list a rules, legalism is always the result. It does not matter who delivers the rules, in the end given enough time the rules themselves get worshiped, and what God orginally intended get forgotten.

This happened with Judaism durning the period of the judges and in the time of Christ. This happened in Christianity durning the dark ages.

Quote: Comparing what men alone did to what God would logically be capable of doing is 1) The kind of illogical BS we've come to expect from you and 2) Practically bordering on heresy.
Big Grin What do you mean boarding hersey? It is hersey to all who practice legalism.

What I have found over the last 5 years of doing this 95% of self proclaimed atheists are atheist because they once believe in a legalistic God, which contradicts The bible description of God and the common sense view of God. So in light of these two contradictions one has grounds to dismiss their legalistic faith.
The foolishly proud part of this is, that they believe and never questioned the traditional legalistic view of God they had in the first place. They seem to assume to question whether or not that their former church had the 'correct' version of Christianity, or not would be an 'unforgivable sin.' So even though they claim not to believe in God they 'think' they completely understand Christianity. which ultimatly leads them to believe the no matter their understanding of God, what ever they understood, it was complete. So rather than risk hersey, they just dismissed their faith all together.

Quote:God didn't physically guide the Jews. If he was unhappy how the Jews governed themselves, he could have made it explicit by demonstrating indisputably to them that he was God in a way that could not be denied.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?sea...rsion=NKJV

The above link is a whole book of the bible that says God lead or guide the Jews.

Quote:What you suggest Drich is a being who can't figure out that, duh, Herp de derp if they don't realize it's actually me (God) commanding this they won't listen. And if I don't tell them such that they cannot mistake it, it won't happen.
So again Parting of the red sea, Manta from Heaven, Being lead through the desert by a pillar of fire, plagues, water from rocks, time literally standing still, so a battle could be fought and won in the day light, insanly out number victories, walls of Jericho being destroyed by just marching and trumpet blasts... To you none of this seems God like or Godly?

Even if you say No, If you read the book I gave you a link to The people who were apart of those things knew It was God who lead their way, which is why they orginally adopted His laws..

But again given a few thousand years and the 'religious/legalists' take what God has given and they pervert it to serve their own purposes.

Quote:No. If God himself did what he wanted to enact, we would have not only a personal relationship with him, we would have direct, incontrovertible proof that would keep us from failing to realize the supposed truth.
Who are you to say "we"/Christians don't?

Quote:Since you completely ignored his bit about God doing it himself, of course you didn't understand that part. He was saying that don't try the nonsensical defense that somehow God revealing himself such that we know he exists transgresses free-will as a reason why God doesn't and hasn't done so, certainly not to everyone if he exists and does do it.
I as you can see did not ignore anything. I just did not baby step you through the whole line of thought. For some reason I skiped a step, and thought you could still see it.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Drich - November 20, 2013 at 2:44 pm
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 11:30 pm
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Ksa - December 15, 2013 at 11:51 pm
RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate? - by Ksa - December 16, 2013 at 10:27 am

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Why did Jesus suffer for sinners and not victims zwanzig 177 31245 June 9, 2021 at 11:14 am
Last Post: John 6IX Breezy
  In what way is the Resurrection the best explanation? GrandizerII 159 26139 November 25, 2019 at 6:46 am
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  The Adam & Eve Myth - Origins Gwaithmir 125 23760 July 13, 2019 at 11:49 am
Last Post: Jehanne
  Did Jesus ever have a perm? Cod 32 7072 April 3, 2019 at 11:03 am
Last Post: Silver
  Why did the Jews lie about Jesus? Fake Messiah 65 9941 March 28, 2019 at 5:32 pm
Last Post: Aliza
  Did Jesus decompose? Natachan 77 10657 March 26, 2019 at 8:18 pm
Last Post: fredd bear
  Did Jesus call the Old Testament God the Devil, a Murderer and the Father of Lies? dude1 51 12115 November 6, 2018 at 12:46 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  How long did Jesus spend in Hell? Gawdzilla Sama 43 10180 February 5, 2018 at 2:15 am
Last Post: Abaddon_ire
  Travis Walton versus The Resurrection. Jehanne 61 19951 November 29, 2017 at 8:21 pm
Last Post: Angrboda
  Did Jesus Christ ever tell a joke ? The Wise Joker 12 3562 January 31, 2017 at 11:37 am
Last Post: Crossless2.0



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)