(November 18, 2013 at 9:44 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I'm always bugged by questions of "what came before the big bang?!" as if that hysterical utterance somehow invalidates the theory, mainly because it doesn't make sense. After all, we're talking about a state of being completely outside the scope of our understanding, here.
Who says time even operates the same way in a pre-expansion universe? Or that time even existed in it? For all we know, the idea of a before the big bang might not even make sense. And that's kind of the problem; assuming god based on our ignorance of what came before the big bang is one giant argument from ignorance, and furthermore, to believe in god just because of that is to ignore all of the evidence pointing to the big bang (cosmic background radiation, redshift, etc etc) in favor of a proposition with no evidence at all, merely because it's culturally extant, and she already wants to believe it.
Uh... didn't you just make the case for God in most of that?
And how in the world...er...universe could you NOT include God in those assumptions? Lack of evidence? You have more for God than what happened in the beginning.
Quis ut Deus?