RE: The Universe and Big Bang
November 21, 2013 at 10:55 pm
(This post was last modified: November 21, 2013 at 10:56 pm by MindForgedManacle.)
(November 21, 2013 at 6:39 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:(November 18, 2013 at 10:28 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: An oscillating universe, spontaneous generation from pre-existent quantum 'foam', a 4-dimensional block of space-time, another universe that we spawned from via black holes. There are so many possibilities that to say that it's obvious that God had to do it is just the want of an easy, intellectually un-taxing answer.That's' the science part. Now let 's talk about the similarities between quantum foam and Thomistic 'primal matter' and the formal cause to which it is subject.
...Okay? I don't have any particularly deep knowledge with regard to quantum foam or Thomism, but okay. My general understanding is that it is theorized to not be able to not be there, or thereabouts.
The problem with what you're suggesting is that you have to argue for HOW you know there is a formal cause for the universe's existence. That's no better than William Lane Craig, who's Kalam argument has similar metaphysical cherry-picking of Aristotlean causes (in this case, it inexplicably discounts a material cause).
But you didn't really address what I said. I was listing off some possibilities, none of which I have any particular confidence over the other as being true or more likely. Is there anything in Thomist philosophy that is akin to the B-theory of time's 4D 'block' of tenselessly-existing spacetime?
