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Believers don't believe
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RE: Believers don't believe
(December 7, 2008 at 7:55 am)Psalm 23 Wrote: There is only 1 God. Don't you know these other so-called ancient gods were just mere men claiming god like strength? These men have died and gone.. And their followers are pretty much banished.
You are wrong there.
Zeus wasn't/isn't a man claiming godlike strength.
Ahura Mazda (zoroastrianism) wasn't/isn't a man claiming godlike strength.
Allah wasn't/isn't a man claiming godlike strength.
Vishnu wasn't/isn't a man claiming godlike strength.
These are all gods.

You cannot prove in an absolute sense that there is only one god and that it coincides with your image of your god. That strictly relies on your faith. Likewise analogous claims from believers of other creed only rely on their faith. Faith itself has no mechanism to resolve competing claims between two or more faiths. Faith cannot even satisfyingly settle any new metaphysical claims on the origin of the universe. Maybe the universe was created by a malicious purple rabbit in the 27th dimension. The 'faith method' cannot debunk this claim, because every religion itself is based on unfalsifiable dogma, i.e. things not to be questioned but to be accepted on faith alone.
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Believers don't believe - by Dotard - December 4, 2008 at 8:56 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 6, 2008 at 2:43 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 6, 2008 at 3:22 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 6, 2008 at 9:27 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 7, 2008 at 7:55 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 7, 2008 at 10:56 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 7, 2008 at 4:52 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by lukec - December 7, 2008 at 4:58 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by bozo - December 7, 2008 at 5:01 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 7, 2008 at 5:10 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by bozo - December 7, 2008 at 5:33 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Purple Rabbit - December 7, 2008 at 12:03 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 7, 2008 at 8:16 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 7, 2008 at 8:22 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Darwinian - December 7, 2008 at 8:35 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 7, 2008 at 8:39 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Tiberius - December 7, 2008 at 8:42 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 7, 2008 at 12:02 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 7, 2008 at 4:45 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by lukec - December 7, 2008 at 4:48 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by lukec - December 7, 2008 at 5:13 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 7, 2008 at 5:25 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Purple Rabbit - December 8, 2008 at 5:19 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by lukec - December 7, 2008 at 5:31 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 7, 2008 at 7:30 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 11, 2008 at 10:28 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 11, 2008 at 10:40 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Kyuuketsuki - December 11, 2008 at 10:46 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Purple Rabbit - December 12, 2008 at 3:23 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by leo-rcc - December 7, 2008 at 7:44 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 8, 2008 at 6:31 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by FutureAndAHope - December 8, 2008 at 11:49 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Purple Rabbit - December 9, 2008 at 3:24 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2008 at 1:40 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 9, 2008 at 8:58 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Purple Rabbit - December 10, 2008 at 2:23 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Baird - December 11, 2008 at 10:38 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by lukec - December 12, 2008 at 12:29 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Dotard - December 14, 2008 at 12:03 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 12:08 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Dotard - December 14, 2008 at 12:14 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 12:37 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Purple Rabbit - December 14, 2008 at 2:21 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 14, 2008 at 9:49 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Tiberius - December 4, 2008 at 10:31 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 4, 2008 at 10:45 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 4, 2008 at 11:32 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by leo-rcc - December 4, 2008 at 11:50 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 4, 2008 at 12:43 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by LukeMC - December 4, 2008 at 12:47 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 4, 2008 at 12:48 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Edwardo Piet - December 4, 2008 at 1:01 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Dotard - December 4, 2008 at 10:57 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 4, 2008 at 11:34 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Dotard - December 5, 2008 at 10:14 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by Daystar - December 5, 2008 at 11:05 am
RE: Believers don't believe - by LukeMC - December 5, 2008 at 12:00 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Ace Otana - December 5, 2008 at 12:56 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by lukec - December 5, 2008 at 2:15 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Dotard - December 5, 2008 at 11:06 pm
RE: Believers don't believe - by Psalm 23 - December 6, 2008 at 12:06 pm

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