The question that makes fundies hostile

[Ben Davis]

Define slavery.

OK, since there seems to be some doubt, I'm going to make the definition explicit: Slavery is the ownership of human beings as property.

My claim is that slavery is immoral because it removes the the fundamental human right to self-determination.

That point alone removes the necessity for discussing 'what type' of slavery may be preferable to/better/worse than another because they are all predicated on the same basic abuse of human rights: the ownership of human beings as property.

There's no wheedling out of this one Drich, it's wrong and your god mandated its practice.

There is a series of beating that are allowed before death is mandatory. If the beatings are done right then death can be averted in most cases

Corporal punishment? For not sharing your beliefs? Drich, that's demonstrably psychologically damaging for the children. Fortunately that's a different thread or I'd take you to task about that one, too.