RE: The question that makes fundies hostile
November 27, 2013 at 8:55 pm
(This post was last modified: November 27, 2013 at 9:26 pm by Lion IRC.)
(November 27, 2013 at 8:50 pm)Optimistic Mysanthrope Wrote:(November 27, 2013 at 12:06 am)Lion IRC Wrote: Not theft you say?
Mined if I quote you?
Quote mine away dear boy, I'm sure your god won't mind you breaking the 9th commandment. Although I'd appreciate it if you could put the quote into it's proper context if you are ever called on it; i.e. a refutation of your claim that slavery is forbidden under the 8th commandment.
Other than that minor quibble, have fun playing quote-minecraft
You said slavery does not involve theft.
I disagree!
And the quote includes a link for context.
*hint* I actually want ppl to go back and read your post
(November 27, 2013 at 8:36 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Yes people do have a choice about their sexual behaviour. But they do not choose their sexual orientation.
If gay people can't/don't exercise choice, (in the same way as bi-curious ppl do or celibate people do, or heterosexual male prisoners do, etc. etc.) then how come some gay people choose to try gay conversion therapy???

Leaving aside the question of whether such therapy works, there are some gay people who exercise intent.
And that desire or intent shows that such people have conscious volition.
A person who has no ability to choose their sexual preference would not have the capacity to contemplate such an irrelevant thing.
The claim made that "I can't help myself" is refuted by multiple examples of other cases where people such as rape victims, sex addicts or low libido folk actually can and do obtain helpful therapy to modify their attitudes.
Where's that research data about heterosexual males who experienced increased blood flow to the penis and apparent psycho-sexual arousal when exposed to homosexual pornography?

If you want to see gay activists go berserk with the No True Scotsman fallacy, just ask them how come a person can get married to the opposite sex, have children, and wait 20 years to finally decide they are gay?