(November 27, 2013 at 8:55 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: If gay people can't/don't exercise choice, (in the same way as bi-curious ppl do or celibate people do, or heterosexual male prisoners do, etc. etc.) then how come some gay people choose to try gay conversion therapy???
Because of bigoted assholes like you that make their life a living hell. The persecution and stigma attached to being gay, in some places of the world, its terrible.
(November 27, 2013 at 8:55 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Leaving aside the question of whether such therapy works, there are some gay people who exercise intent.
And that desire or intent shows that such people have conscious volition.
What does that even mean? Intent? That they wan't to have sex with the same gender? Well yea, thats how it works, they are gay.
(November 27, 2013 at 8:55 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: A person who has no ability to choose their sexual preference would not have the capacity to contemplate such an irrelevant thing.
So why don't you choose to be gay? Go on, give it a go! Get some perspective and understanding here.
(November 27, 2013 at 8:55 pm)Lion IRC Wrote: Where's that research data about heterosexual males who experienced increased blood flow to the penis and apparent psycho-sexual arousal when exposed to homosexual pornography?
No idea if that is an actual thing or how that is relevant.
Its weird, I don't see you protesting about homosexuality in animals. Do they choose to be gay like humans do?
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
