(December 3, 2013 at 6:39 am)Stimbo Wrote:(December 2, 2013 at 11:29 pm)snowtracks Wrote: The resurrection of Jesus Christ is the proof.
No, that's the claim.
Let me see if I can put it another way. I claim I can bend spoons just by staring at them. You ask me to prove it. I say that I proved it by bending a spoon yesterday. You ask for real proof. I reply that God spoke to me in a dream and told me my spoon-bending gift is genuine. And so on.
Here's the thing. Claim + claim + claim =/= proof. Even if (and it's a humongous if) it was proven beyond all doubt that the Universe was deliberately and intelligently created by some entity, there would still be no way you could leap from that to anything else you want to attach to it from your religious book without evidence even to suggest it.
so it is true then that if the U. was intelligently created, no other explanation would be required. the dream thing is getting silly.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.