RE: World's Oldest Christian Church discovered in Jordan!!
December 8, 2008 at 10:10 am
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2008 at 10:27 am by Psalm 23.)
(December 7, 2008 at 5:05 pm)bozo Wrote: Psalmy, this does not prove Jesus was born to a virgin, lived, died, came alive again and then disappeared into the clouds ( oh yes, after performing many " miracles " )Did you stop and think maybe these 70 Disciples of Jesus Christ witnessed his Ressurection? From what Archaeologists have collected in this cave, they have evidence it was used by worshippers of Christ in 33 A.D.
As to why people believe that, I dunno..beats me.
That's why Christians had to flee into Jordan and hide in a cave, so they could escape execution by the Roman Iron hand.
This cave is slowly placing the Gospels in order. Now we know Jesus Christ was in fact worshipped in 33 A.D, just as the Gospels have described.
I think it's a safe bet to say that Jesus Christ was not a mythical character invented by the Gospels.
(December 7, 2008 at 8:28 pm)Tiberius Wrote:Because people like Michael Travesser are preaching, "The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!" He is taking Biblical verses and twisting them, and scaring people into thinking the end of the world is near.(December 7, 2008 at 5:01 pm)Psalm 23 Wrote: If Jesus was not a miracle healer, and a Divine leader, then why did so many people worship him decades before the Gospels?Why do people follow Michael Travesser? Why do people join Scientology?
Answer: They are tricked into believing something that is a load of bullshit. Jesus' followers were no different.
We have evidence that Michael Travesser exists. We also have evidence people like David Koresh existed as well. But I don't think these men have any chance of 32% of the world believing they are God in the flesh. These men are cult leaders, only a very few (deranged) follow them.
What does the Bible say about "Many will come in the name of God?" I think any true Bible reader should see these verses, and steer clear of people like The Branch Dividians...etc,etc,etc..
I think the main goal of this article is to question those people who believe Jesus Christ was nothing but an invented story decades after his 'supposed' death and ressurection.
(December 8, 2008 at 8:32 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: And the final two lines of the article ...[i]In November 2005, Israeli archaeologists made similar claims for a site at Megiddo, near the biblical Armageddon. They discovered ancient mosaics within the grounds of a prison.Yes, That is correct. They found another Christian Church with similiar seating arrangements.
Quote:There is some skepticism within the archeological community about this latest discovery as it claims to be so much older than existing Christian churches.Yes, of course there will be anti-Christian archaeologists claiming this site is a fraud. Leading archaeologist Dr. Al-Hussan has evidence this site was used by followers of Christ in 33 A.D. Some archaeaologists believe this cave was occupied by other people earlier than the Christians in 33A.D. And no one is denying that part.
Muslim/Islamic leaders have ordered Dr. Al-Hussan to keep his mouth shut about this discovery.
Quote:... don't phase you at all? It's also worth noting that many of us probably accept that Christian Gnostics worshipped much earlier, possibly even before the time of your claimed Christ, I certainly don't have a problem with that idea but, even if it were real, it doesn't validate the essential core claims of Christianity.This is further evidence that Jesus existed. How could these 70 Disciples in this cave be worshipping a man called, "The Christ" if he hasn't been invented yet? This cave is certainly piling on the evidence that Jesus did in fact exist in the early first century.
This paints a whole new picture on atheism.