"The bible test" Answered.

[Drich]

50 million years! Why, Drich, I'm so happy to see that you have become an evolutionist.

Have always been, as well as a creationist.
http://atheistforums.org/thread-14190.html

Drich, you are putting your ignorance of biblical scholarship on display. I was summarizing a theory held by some reputable OT scholars; it originated with the anthropologist

And you applied this closed minded arguement to what I said, dispite the details of my arguement. and then you attack your arguement as a way to invalidate mine. Still not star ship captian behaivor.

Well, Drich, you have just proved my contention that you cannot read. YOUR Bible says that the rabbit "chews its cud"

Maybe the Jews back then did not know of the rules we would eventually apply (4000 years or so later) to the practice of "rumination." Maybe to them the simple chewing motion that rock rabbits make was enough for them to identify it as "gerah."

same phrase it uses for the "clean" animals; I did not see any need to make a big fuss about the ignorance of the primitive Biblical writers over this small issue, but since you raise the point, and put your ignorance of the Bible on display, I will correct you here. Do you seriously think that there are no diseases carried by cattle, sheep and goats?

I did not say that. I clearly said Pigs tend to carry more disease than the rest as well has having less than 1/2 the shelf life.

"There are numerous diseases that humans may contract from endogenously infected meat, such as anthrax, bovine tuberculosis, brucellosis, salmonellosis, listeriosis, trichinosis or taeniasis."

was this true 4000 years ago?
in a word, no. we only have evidence of Anthrax from 300AD forward.
Bovine TB (cow cough ) orginated in England in the 20th century, brucellosis another 20th century plague. As far as the rest I did not look up their orgin dates, you can if you want. The reason I did not look these up is because salmonellosis, listeriosis, trichinosis, taeniasis cease to be a threat if the rest of the dietary laws concerning food prep and avoidance of certain parts is practiced.

This is fun what else you got? (maybe look them up and see if they apply first, because if you give me another random list I'll call you a name and dismiss your work.)

And to bring this list up to date we might also instance mad cow disease. And then there is "bird flu" which is contracted from bird types considered clean.

You do understand that both of these are 'new' diseases right? You also know these laws only applied to the Jews who live thousands of years ago right?

I concede that I was wrong about pork having a shelf life as good as beef, which is more than you will ever do on any point, no matter how egregiously stupid it was. However, I note that you have not a word to say about the shelf life of poultry, which was accepted as clean.

How big were birds back then compared to pig or camels? How much self life does one need on a 1 lb chicken? verse how much self life is needed on a 100 lb pig or a 1400 lb camel?

I did not say anything because to me it is just common sense... Appearently I was wrong.
(See I can admit when I was foolishly wrong, without a proviso like in your above admission)

In any case, the biblical laws were NOT instituted for health reasons. Pork and camel and rabbit would be considered unclean even if they were thoroughly cooked immediately after slaughter.

So you have a recipe that calls for 1400 lbs of camel meat?

You utterly ignored the point both max and I made, that these dietary prohibitions were lifted in New Testament times, although there was no advance in sanitary handling of meats, which plainly indicates the original prohibition had nothing to do with food safety.

Sanitary conditions? probably not. Maybe that is why my arguement does not center it self on a sanitary issue, at the same time i do not dismiss it outright. My arguement focouses on preservation of food. Perservation limits bacterial growth and spoilage. The romans brought preservation techniques for unclean food the jews did not have. So by the time of Christ meat was more safe than it had ever been.