"The bible test" Answered.

[Drich]

I see you have appealed to a red herring rather than address content. You stated that The NT says following the law was indeed possiable. Paul in Romans 7 clearly says it is not.. Why didn't you start here?

Because you don't know your facts, and this has been proved to you time and time again.

Then by all means, show me. Show me where 'your facts' invalidate the teaching of Paul in Romans 7. Otherwise understand inorder to hold to your doctrine you have to ignore the Teachings of Paul, and Christ to hide behind these elusive 'facts.'

That said, in all my time here I do not spend it correcting 'brothers in the faith' for two reason. One we are told not to do it publically. We are told to bring a matter of contention to them privatly. Two, I understand that not all 'eat meat.' Meaning not everyone has to be on the same page or understanding of God. We are only called to be responsiable for what we can comperhend. If your comperhension ties you to the Law, then know even if Paul and Christ give you the freedom to live apart from the law, that still means you have the freedom to live under the law as well. "For what you bind on earth will be bound in Heaven and what you loose on earth will also be loosed in Heaven."
Meaning in your freedom if you tie yourself to the law of moses then in Heaven it is by the law of moses you will be judged. If in your freedom you wish to tie yourself down then you have freedom to do so.

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Uh, no. not even close.


Now keep reading sport:
20 And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. 21 For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, 22 coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. 23 All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”

So it is your opinion that Jesus said all of the above mentioned comes from your physical blood pump?
Because contextually to me Christ is refering to the secondary meaning to the word:centre of all physical and spiritual life
the vigour and sense of physical life
the centre and seat of spiritual life
the soul or mind, as it is the fountain and seat of the thoughts, passions, desires, appetites, affections, purposes, endeavours
of the understanding, the faculty and seat of the intelligence
of the will and character
of the soul so far as it is affected and stirred in a bad way or good, or of the soul as the seat of the sensibilities, affections, emotions, desires, appetites, passions

I'm only going to respond to this one point as the rest are no longer worth it.

The point being made is that Jesus did not recognise the heart as being merely a blood pump. This is where he attributed thoughts, mind, soul, desires and so on to. In other words - there is a reason he never mentions the brain (anywhere) as he didn't know what function it served.

"For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts...."

We might today euphemistically refer to the heart as the centre of passions and so on but we do not have thoughts, evil or otherwise, allocated there. Even when we do allocate emotions to the heart we do so in phrases that make it clear it is the brain that does the thinking - letting his heart rule his head, for example.

It is exactly this sort of biblical evidence that shows us that Jesus was not privy to any information that could not have come from the period. In other words - none of the knowledge a god should have.

Draw your own conclusions.....

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There is an interesting summary of the perceived role of brain and heart throughout the ancient world at http://www.theskepticalreview.com/tsrmag/1brain93.html

It specifically draws attention to biblical interpretations of the functions of the various parts of the body.

Not true. Christ make a very Clear distinction between Heart, Mind,(brain) Spirit (Soul in some translations) and Body when He was asked what was our Greatest Commandment. Which was: "You are to love your Lord God with all of your Heart"

as in:
centre of all physical and spiritual life
the vigour and sense of physical life
the centre and seat of spiritual life
the soul or mind, as it is the fountain and seat of the thoughts, passions, desires, appetites, affections, purposes, endeavours
of the understanding, the faculty and seat of the intelligence
of the will and character
of the soul so far as it is affected and stirred in a bad way or good, or of the soul as the seat of the sensibilities, affections, emotions, desires, appetites, passions

Not blood pump, because how can you love with a blood pump? "Mind, Spirit and Strength."

Because Christ shows a clear understand between the seperation of Heart and mind in this passage it stands to reason that when He says 'heart' He is not speaking blood pump in yours.