(December 11, 2013 at 1:10 pm)Drich Wrote:Drich, you are very fond of "rolling on the floor laughing out loud." What you don't understand is that everyone is laughing at you. Not because we are hard core atheists, but because your attempts at logical argument are so pathetic. You make about as much sense as a turkey gobbling.(December 11, 2013 at 12:49 pm)xpastor Wrote: Sorry, but speaking as one atheist to another, that is a rash statement Ksa. I certainly believe that the historical Jesus never uttered such a claim, but the gospel writers decades after his death put words in his mouth, especially the gospel attributed to John, e.g., "I and my father are one."
Proof? or are you expressing your ablity for great faith in the unknown/unknowable?
Do yourself a favor. Read and study some of the Christian apologists whom you might agree with like C.S. Lewis. Or maybe William Lane Craig; I've never read Craig but he is popular in Christan circles. If you really absorbed theologians like this, you probably would not get us to change our minds, but we would at least have some respect for you.
As for the dates of the New Testament books and how they have added to the words of Jesus, no, I don't take things on faith. That's a characteristic of fundamentalists. I rely on evidence. Now evidence never grants complete 100% certainty, but after more than 100 years of the so-called higher criticism, most people coming to the question without prejudices in advance will conclude that the weight of evidence raises grave doubts about the integrity of the Bible. I can't teach you this in two easy posts. You need to read dozens of books to grasp the arguments. I can only suggest that you start with 4 or 5 books by Bart Ehrman and then branch out to the books which he refers to.
Your attempts at logic are presently hopeless. They never amount to more than a childish assertion "Me smart, you dumb." I am not going to waste any more time on you unless you broaden your horizons and smarten up.
If you could reason with religious people, there would be no religious people — House