RE: "The bible test" Answered.
December 12, 2013 at 12:29 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2013 at 1:12 pm by Drich.)
(December 12, 2013 at 11:04 am)Ksa Wrote: Because Jesus insulted them over and over...and over...him calling them a wicked and adulterous generation, fools...SNAKES! Would you get mad if someone addressed you like that? Them saying Jesus claimed to be God was a PRETEXT to give him a good bashing. They would make up any bs story about Jesus they HATED him!If the story was made up and Jesus did not claim to be God why did correct their usage of the word god siteing psalms 82:6? He used that defination to support his claim on deity, first by showing that technically all who do God's work are 'gods' and then once he was in the clear (by the law) He took his miricals and said if He were not indeed deity God the Father would not allow Him to do Miricals in His name and still claim deity Which is why they tried to Kill Him again.
37 If I don’t do what my Father does, then don’t believe what I say. 38 But if I do what my Father does, you should believe in what I do. You might not believe in me, but you should believe in the things I do. Then you will know and understand that the Father is in me and I am in the Father.”
No one But the Son of God can Claim "the Father is in Him, and He in the Father." Christ used the law to show they had no justification to stone Him because all who do the works of God the Father were considered gods. Then He sited His work/Miricals to underscore that no one could do these things if God the Father supported Him and Everything He said and did. Then with that fresh in their minds He reasserted that He was indeed on Par with God the Father Making Him God as well. Which again made the hypocrits pick up stones to stone Him even though Christ just showed they had no justification to do so.
(December 12, 2013 at 11:24 am)Ksa Wrote: ^ TONTHEOS, which means "a god". According to your translation you should have spelt this word God a second time with a small "g" i.e. god, and not God with a capital "G"; TONTHEOS is rendered "a god". Both of these, "god" or "a god" are correct.
But in 2 Corinthians 4:4 you dishonestly reverse your system by using a small "g" when spelling GOD - "(and the devil is) the god of this world." The Greek word for "the god" is HOTHEOS, JUST LIKE in John 1:1.
Why have you not been consistent in your translation? If Paul was inspired to write hotheos - the God for the Devil, why begrudge him that capital 'G'?
The word in John 1:1 is theos
θεός theos
http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Jh...NIV#conc/1
If you think differently show me proof, as I have shown you proof via an acredited lexicon and concordance. I will not be taking your word.
(December 12, 2013 at 11:34 am)Ksa Wrote: Drich can't reply in real time, he's off doing research lol. I quote stuff from my mind, verses included, if we had a conversation he would be out after a few exchanges lol.
Helpless without the book, he has to open the book!
Which is probably why you have been shown to be flat out wrong 10 times out of 10 to this point. Your 'mind' is not the vault of reliable information you think it to be.
And yes I research absolutly everything. So whatever I post can be backed by at least three different sources.
Which is a far cry from the faith needed to accept anything you have said.
(December 12, 2013 at 11:53 am)Ksa Wrote: Seat of what? Are you watching Star Wars? Because you're clearly not reading the Bible. Where is this mentioned....bleh I won't bother it's not mentioned anywhere. But let's take your logic further:Revelations 5:13 John recordes the praises of every created being "Glory and power for The one who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb." The "one who sits on the throne" is in a position of ultimate authority and power (hence seat of power.) That 'one' would be God the Father, and the Lamb is another name for Jesus.
Quote:If the Father dominates, it means the trinity is a patriarchy right?1: social organization marked by the supremacy of the father in the clan or family
According to the defination above yes.
Quote:Father is the dominant figure. But now there's a battle between the son and the Holy Spirit right?Where do you see a battle mentioned in scripture? The Son sits at the right hand of the Father. The seat to the right of the seat of power signifies the one who sits here answers only to the one sitting in the seat of power.
Quote: Who's higher? Well, since you claim that God begot a son and since begetting is animal act, it belongs to the lower animal functions of sex...and given that God, with his "Holy Spirit" entered Mary's room and raped her without her consent, I must conclude the Holy Spirit is God's genitals!I was wondering when the false pretenses would fall and you defaulted to the good ole atheist standby. an appeal to vulgarity in an attempt to shock and awe the christian away from the conversation..
So I assume Jesus is above that! If Jesus is lower than God's genitals why would you worship him? Might as well worship God's penis...
Quote:This is the abomination you believe in. You can't worship the penis so you worship the son. I think you now understand why the Trinity was thrown out of the Bible by Christian scholars...but I waited for you to embarrass yourself in front of everyone before revealing it to you.Don't you mean Mormon scholars? Mormons as you well know are Christian, as they do not worship the God of the bible. They worship the gods and prophets set up by mormonism.