RE: How did the myth of Jesus' resurrection originate?
December 15, 2013 at 9:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2013 at 9:06 pm by Medi.)
(December 15, 2013 at 10:52 am)rightcoaster Wrote: quote='rightcoaster' pid='563260' dateline='1387050437']
(December 14, 2013 at 1:15 pm)rightcoaster Wrote: I tried to reply yesterday, but the post shows no text. Maybe this will work better. I apologize for any duplication, it's unintended:
To Medi: Your assessment seems very good. A big concern of the Jews is that a living person would be interred, given that the obligation is to bury quickly. That's why there are "shomrim" in Judaism, who watch over the body to make sure it is really dead.
Now, as to whether Jesus was actually dead when removed (some here argue nothing at all of this happened, but that does not lead to any discussion, and what is life without a good argument?), he was also scourged beforehand. As I understand that process, the person is pretty well flayed open. Seems to me one could lose a lot of blood if an artery were nicked in the process, maybe bleed to death in well under six hours.
Was one of these 'shomrim' present with Jesus?
It's just that I would imagine, considering the hatred of many of the Jews toward Jesus, that he probably wouldn't have been afforded such a right (perhaps?). Maybe that's why Mary was there?
There's also the question of myrrh and frankinsence at the tomb. These are used in Asia to treat wounds, so perhaps the women came with the intent of trying to heal Jesus?
Concerning his time in Kashmir and India, the Bhavishvya Mahaj Purani, sanskrit writings, hold eye-witness accounts of the king Raja Shalvan coming across a man who called himself 'Yussasaf' who said, when asked for his religion, 'love is the name of my faith', and went on to describe how he'd been tortured in Israel and miraculously survived. That would explain how he came to some of the prophets with holes in his hands and then says 'I'm going to my master', the same 'master' whose business he'd been about during his twenties.
There's a prophecy that was torn from the Pali writings of Buddha that talks about Jesus in a story, after Buddha's disciple Ananda asks him 'how can we be rid of our desire for misdeeds (sin) for good?' and the Buddha replies something like 'it would take you to rub that wooden post three times a day until it is dust to be rid of your desire for misdeeds', and continues to prophecy someone who'll come after him to remove sin from the world.
Loads of the existing writings prophecy 'metteya' (pronounced meth-ayia), who'll come to teach kindness to the world.
The parables of the sewing of seeds, Jesus teachings on 'love others as yourself' and a whole host of other points, they're written almost identically in buddhist texts that were made hundreds of years before Jesus' birth.
Only two full tribes of Israel lived in Jerusalem at the time of Jesus' life, and the rest had emigrated east. It's probably not a coincidence that Thomas went east too, towards India.
In Herath, there is a group of muslims who refer to Jesus as 'Yusassaf the Kashmiri'.
There's also a large Buddhist following in Kasmir and Southern Nepal that talk of a man called 'Issa' who fits Jesus description.
There's evidence out there to be found, but how much biblical writing and narrative of Jesus lies either in the Vatican vaults or has been burned throughout the ages? Between crusades and popes that think torture and witch-burning are viable actions to be taken from Jesus' teachings, I can't really agree that those kinds of people were ever qualified to choose what is viable as biblical writing and what isn't.
Personally, from reading Theravadas, I don't think there's any doubt Jesus took after Buddha. And I'm stumped if I have to accept that a man died, came back to life and then disappeared into metaphysical bliss when the alternative makes a lot more sense.