Theists, are you immune to being decieved?

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Stat, come on, man!
Double standards and bare assertions from you?!

How low the mighty have fallen....

This is not what we are talking about. I am asking you how you can account for the fact that all electrons repel one another and other such regularities (what we call laws) in a purely material and unguided Universe.

Each electron behaves like an electron.
They all have at least one thing that sets them apart from all other electrons, be it, spin, position, velocity, energy, etc...

Absent a mind capable of inquiry operating within it, the universe would still operate.

Sure, but why? What’s causing it to do so?

It is what it is...
If there is a cause for it, we have no way of ascertaining it. If you do have such a way, please write your paper, claim the million dollars and the Nobel prize.

Until such a cause is proven to exist, there is no reason to assume that it does.

I understand what you are saying; I just do not see how it is relevant. It does not do anything to explain why such regularities exist in the Universe.

Because on an irregular universe you, me, we wouldn't be here to ask such questions.
"why"... as if someone thought of all this and then made it so...

Where in the bible does it say anything about immaterial?

John 4 says God is a spirit-spirits are immaterial. Not only this but God is eternal (Revelation 4), omnipresent (Kings 8), and immutable (Hebrews 6) which are not properties matter possesses.

Where does it say that the source of logical absolutes is a gift from the biblical God?

Let’s stay on topic. We are talking about natural regularities (laws) not logical absolutes. Genesis 8 says God is responsible for such regularities.

OK, it's not a bare assertion.... it's a biblical assertion...

The defense and description of your God has been evolving over time.

No it hasn’t.

So... the jewish yahweh concept didn't evolve into the christian trinity concept at some point?...say... 1800 years ago?

God is not hiding, and I know He exists.

There's the bare assertion I remember reading earlier...

His very existence makes such searches possible; therefore it is absurd to pretend anyone does not know He exists. It’d be like someone running around questioning whether their mind exists or not; if it did not they would not be able to engage in such an inquiry.

Ah... another bare assertion...
and that ever so present desire of mankind to surpass the bodily death, keeping the mind intact and apart from the body, so it can go on existing in some other body... even if that other body is not an earthly one... nor one that uses any of the matter in the universe...

Which is exactly what you are doing without having any evidence to support the claim.

The very notion of evidence assumes God exists. That’s my entire point.

3rd bare assertion? tss tss tss "I am disapoint".

You are sure, and you have no evidence. An interesting approach to examining reality. I also find it interesting that this approach dovetails your feelings toward my recognizing universal regularities without knowing exactly why I perceive them as such.

Such regularities make no sense without Yahweh.

And 4th... you are truly falling from grace...

You have no basis for what you consider reality, and what you discount as being fantasy. The central and most cherished belief in your life is indistinguishable from fantasy.

On the contrary, if God did not exist it would be impossible to distinguish between accurate perception and deception.

Would it, now?
Bare assertion Number 5.

You have done nothing to explain why such regularities exist in a purely material Universe.

Well, I must say that, at least, you are consistent...
Why do you keep asking that?

Then why do you not use the doctrine alone to establish validity to your claims? Why do you resort to statements such as...

I am merely poking holes in your view of reality and pointing out the fact that mine does not possess such shortcomings. It’s a very effective approach.

LOL!
The magic man in the sky takes care of every strange question that your (and other people's) minds can come up with.
And if we ask why does the man in the sky exist?

Because we exist and have the capacity for speculation.

Again, you are saying that if we did not exist electrons would cease to repel one another?

I may have read it wrong, but I think he means that if we don't exist, electrons would go on doing their stuff... but no one would be around to measure it and marvel in their effects...